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From: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> To: regressions@lists.linux.dev, Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info> Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, Guillaume Tucker <guillaume.tucker@collabora.com>, automated-testing@yoctoproject.org, Sasha Levin <sashalevin@google.com>, Marco Elver <elver@google.com>, syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>, Mara Mihali <mihalimara22@gmail.com> Subject: finding regressions with syzkaller Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 19:08:45 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CACT4Y+YvovgRNC5EFhN_d=jApwSAsWcNj35=FCJf1k867vBqfw@mail.gmail.com> (raw) Hi, I want to give an overview of an idea and an early prototype we developed as part of an intern project. This is not yet at the stage of producing real results, but I just wanted to share the idea with you and maybe get some feedback. The idea is to generate random test programs (as syzkaller does) and then execute them on 2 different kernels and compare results (so called "differential fuzzing"). This has the potential of finding not just various "crashes" but also logical bugs and regressions. Initially we thought of comparing Linux with gVisor or FreeBSD on a common subset of syscalls. But it turns out we can also compare different versions of Linux (LTS vs upstream, or different LTS versions, or LTS .1 with .y) to find any changes in behavior/regressions. Ultimately such an approach could detect and report a large spectrum of various small and large changes in various subsystems automatically and potentially even bisect the commit that introduces the difference. In the initial version we only considered returned errno's (including 0/success) as "results" of execution of a program. But theoretically it should be enough to sense lots of differences, e.g. if a file state is different that it can be sensed with a subsequent read returning different results. The major issue is various false positive differences caused by timings, non-determinism, accumulated state, intentional and semi-intentional changes (e.g. subtle API extensions), etc. We learnt how to deal with some of these to some degree, but feasibility is still an open question. So far we were able to find few real-ish differences, the most interesting I think is this commit: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=d25e3a3de0d6fb2f660dbc7d643b2c632beb1743 which silently does s/EBADF/ENXIO/: - f = fdget(p->wq_fd); - if (!f.file) - return -EBADF; + f = fdget(p->wq_fd); + if (!f.file) + return -ENXIO; I don't know how important this difference is, but I think it's exciting and promising that the tool was able to sense this change. The other difference we discovered is caused by this commit: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=97ba62b278674293762c3d91f724f1bb922f04e0 Which adds attr->sigtrap: + if (attr->sigtrap && !attr->remove_on_exec) + return -EINVAL; So the new kernel returns EINVAL for some input, while the old kernel did not recornize this flag and returned E2BIG. This is an example of a subtle API extension, which represent a problem for the tool (bolder API changes like a new syscall, or a new /dev node are easier to handle automatically). If you are interested in more info, here are some links: https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/docs/syz_verifier.md https://github.com/google/syzkaller/issues/692 https://github.com/google/syzkaller/issues/200 Since this work is in very early stage, I only have very high-level questions: - what do you think about feasibility/usefulness of this idea in general? - any suggestions on how to make the tool find more differences/bugs or how to make it more reliable? - is there a list or pointers to some known past regressions that would be useful to find with such tool? (I've looked at the things reported on the regressions@ list, but it's mostly crashes/not booting, but that's what syzkaller can find already well) - anybody else we should CC? Thanks
next reply other threads:[~2021-08-10 17:09 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-08-10 17:08 Dmitry Vyukov [this message] 2021-08-11 11:25 ` finding regressions with syzkaller Thorsten Leemhuis 2021-08-12 9:15 ` Dmitry Vyukov 2021-09-22 11:21 ` Lukas Bulwahn
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