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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: linux@dominikbrodowski.net
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Ivan T. Ivanov" <iivanov@suse.de>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3, resend] random: fix crash on multiple early calls to add_bootloader_randomness()
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:55:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHmME9qxBeBzfKCjzfAFX9ZWAGKv1TKCQw3x22d_DmJtaAewLw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YaivhAV8LouB0zGV@light.dominikbrodowski.net>

Hi Dominik,

Thanks for the patch. One trivial nit and one question:

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 6:35 AM Dominik Brodowski
<linux@dominikbrodowski.net> wrote:
> +       /* We cannot do much with the input pool until it is set up in
> +        * rand_initalize(); therefore just mix into the crng state.

I think you meant "rand_initialize()" here (missing 'i').

> If the added entropy suffices to increase crng_init to 1, future calls
> to add_bootloader_randomness() or add_hwgenerator_randomness() used to
> progress to credit_entropy_bits(). However, if the input pool is not yet
> properly set up, the cmpxchg call within that function can lead to an
> infinite recursion.

I see what this patch does with crng_global_init_time, and that seems
probably sensible, but I didn't understand this part of the reasoning
in the commit message; I might just be a bit slow here. Where's the
recursion exactly? Or even an infinite loop?

As far as I can tell, that portion of credit_entropy_bits() breaks down as:

retry:
        entropy_count = orig = READ_ONCE(r->entropy_count);
   [ ... do some arithmetic on entropy_count ... ]
        if (cmpxchg(&r->entropy_count, orig, entropy_count) != orig)
                goto retry;

Why would this be infinite? Why wouldn't the cmpxchg eventually
converge to a stable value? I don't see any call that modifies
r->entropy_count or orig from inside that block. Is there some other
super-spinny concurrent operation?

Thanks,
Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-02 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-12  8:27 [PATCH] Revert "efi/random: Treat EFI_RNG_PROTOCOL output as bootloader randomness" Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-12  8:40 ` Dominik Brodowski
2021-10-13  7:30   ` [RESEND] " Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-13  7:50     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-13  8:05       ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-13  9:51       ` [RESEND] " Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-13  9:53         ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-13 13:23           ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-31  6:30   ` [PATCH] random: fix crash on multiple early calls to add_bootloader_randomness() Dominik Brodowski
2021-10-31 12:33     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-03  7:14       ` Dominik Brodowski
2021-11-03  7:27         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-05  6:04           ` Dominik Brodowski
2021-11-03  7:17   ` [PATCH v2] " Dominik Brodowski
2021-11-05  6:04   ` [PATCH v3] " Dominik Brodowski
2021-11-24 12:32     ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-12-02 11:35   ` [PATCH v3, resend] " Dominik Brodowski
2021-12-02 16:55     ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2021-12-03  7:58       ` [PATCH v4] " Dominik Brodowski
2021-12-03 15:39         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-03 16:47           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-03 17:01             ` Dominik Brodowski
2021-12-06  8:14           ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-12-30 18:05             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-04 15:06               ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-12-06  5:42         ` Hsin-Yi Wang
2021-12-06 20:57           ` [PATCH v5] " Dominik Brodowski
2021-12-07  7:09             ` Hsin-Yi Wang
2021-12-07  7:14               ` Dominik Brodowski
2021-12-07 17:22             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-20 14:48               ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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