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From: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
To: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
Cc: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] Support non-coherent DMA on RISC-V using a global pool
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 09:37:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJF2gTSMtj05cduTZ6jEqDXtaG0QTY743MRQrv08B4cocZbXJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOnJCU+ip1ccc9CrREi3c+15ue4Grcq+ENbQ+z_gh3CH249aAg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 2:19 PM Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 9:30 PM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 14:40:26 PDT (-0700), Atish Patra wrote:
> > > RISC-V privilege specification doesn't define an IOMMU or any method modify
> > > PMA attributes or PTE entries to allow non-coherent mappings yet. In
> > > the beginning, this approach was adopted assuming that most of the RISC-V
> > > platforms would support full cache-coherent IO. Here is excerpt from the
> > > priv spec section 3.6.5
> > >
> > > "In RISC-V platforms, the use of hardware-incoherent regions is discouraged
> > > due to software complexity, performance, and energy impacts."
> > >
> > > While some of the RISC-V platforms adhere to the above suggestion, not all
> > > platforms can afford to build to fully cache-coherent I/O devices. To
> > > address DMA for non-coherent I/O devices, we need to mark a region of memory
> > > as non-cacheable. Some of the platforms rely on a fixed region of uncached
> > > memory that is remapped to the system memory while some other modify
> > > the PTE entries to achieve that.
> > >
> > > The patch3 solves the issue for the fist use case by using a global
> > > pool of memory that is reserved for DMA. The device access the reserved area
> > > of the region while corresponding CPU address will be from uncached region
> > > As the uncached region is remapped to the beginning of the system ram, both
> > > CPU and device get the same view.
> > >
> > > To facilitate streaming DMA APIs, patch 1 introduces a set of generic
> > > cache operations. Any platform can use the generic ops to provide platform
> > > specific cache management operations. Once the standard RISC-V CMO extension
> > > is available, it will also use these generic ops.
> > >
> > > To address the second use case, Page Based Memory Attribute (PBMT) extension
> > > is proposed. Once the extension is in good shape, we can leverage that
> > > using CONFIG_DIRECT_REMAP. Currently, it is selected via a compile time config
> > > option. We will probably need another arch specific hooks to know if the
> > > platform supports direct remap at runtime. For RISC-V, it will check the
> > > presence of PBMT extension while other arch function will simply return true
> >
> > IIUC this is another extension that's not yet frozen or implemented in
> > hardware?  Is this one compatible with what's in the c906, or is it
> > doing things its own way?
>
> Hi Palmer,
> This series doesn't implement the PBMT extension which is still in discussion.
> It simply reuse the existing non-coherent dma mapping support in
> upstream kernel and enable
> it for RISC-V. The current version uses a non-coherent global pool. I
> will update it to use arch_set_uncached
> as per Christoph's suggestion. It solves the non-coherent DMA problem
> for beagleV and not c906.
>
> I briefly mentioned the PBMT extension just to provide an idea how the
> RISC-V Linux kernel
> can support both unached window and PBMT extension. PBMT extension is
> planned to be frozen
> by the end of this year and none of the hardware has implemented it.
>
> The implementation in c906 is a non-standard one and will not be
> supported by the default PBMT
> extension implementation.
The default PBMT & c908 PBMT are similar, only BIT definitions are
different. I propose to support default PBMT first and give the back
door to modify the PBMT definition during boot.
The "protection_map[] = (__P000, __P001 ..__S000, __S001)" in
mm/mmap.c has been modified by arch/mips, arm, sparc, x86, so I think
it's proper solution direction.

The reset problem is how to passing custom PBMT at the very early boot
stage. Now I'm trying to use the DTS parsing instead of boot param hdr
which Anup objected to.

ref: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/1623693067-53886-1-git-send-email-guoren@kernel.org/

Any comments are welcome.

>
>
> >
> > > if DIRECT_REMAP is enabled. This is required as arious different config
> > > (DIRECT_REMAP, GLOBAL_POOL) will be enabled in the defconfig so that a
> > > unified kernel image can boot on all RISC-V platforms.
> > >
> > > This patch series depends on Christoph's global pool support series[1].
> > > Tested on Qemu, HiFive unleashed and beagleV. This series is also available
> > > at [2].
> > > This series also solves the non-coherent DMA support on beagleV but requires
> > > additional beagleV specific patches[3] which will be upstreamed soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/iommu/2021-July/057266.html
> > > [2] https://github.com/atishp04/linux/tree/riscv_nc_global_pool
> > > [3] https://github.com/atishp04/linux/tree/wip_beaglev_dma_nc_global
> > >
> > > Atish Patra (5):
> > > RISC-V: Implement arch_sync_dma* functions
> > > of: Move of_dma_get_range to of_address.h
> > > dma-mapping: Enable global non-coherent pool support for RISC-V
> > > dma-direct: Allocate dma pages directly if global pool allocation
> > > fails
> > > RISC-V: Support a new config option for non-coherent DMA
> > >
> > > arch/riscv/Kconfig                       |  8 +++
> > > arch/riscv/include/asm/dma-noncoherent.h | 19 +++++++
> > > arch/riscv/mm/Makefile                   |  1 +
> > > arch/riscv/mm/dma-noncoherent.c          | 66 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > drivers/of/of_private.h                  | 10 ----
> > > include/linux/of_address.h               | 12 +++++
> > > kernel/dma/coherent.c                    | 49 +++++++++++++++---
> > > kernel/dma/direct.c                      |  7 ++-
> > > 8 files changed, 152 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
> > > create mode 100644 arch/riscv/include/asm/dma-noncoherent.h
> > > create mode 100644 arch/riscv/mm/dma-noncoherent.c
> >
> > Can you guys please make up your minds about how this is going to be
> > supported at the ISA level?  I get a different answer every day here:
> > sometimes it's that these systems are not compliant, sometimes that
> > Linux is the compliance suite, sometimes that we're doing an ISA
> > extension, and sometimes that we're doing the SBI stuff.
> >
>
> I am not sure whom you have talked to. I would be happy to set up a
> meeting so that everybody is on
> the same page if you are getting different answers every time.
>
> > I don't really care all that much about what the decision is, but it's
> > impossible to move forward without some semblance of a plan.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > linux-riscv mailing list
> > linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-riscv
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Atish
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Best Regards
 Guo Ren

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-17  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-23 21:40 Atish Patra
2021-07-23 21:40 ` [RFC 1/5] RISC-V: Implement arch_sync_dma* functions Atish Patra
2021-07-26  6:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-26 21:52     ` Atish Patra
2021-09-11  9:37       ` Guo Ren
2021-08-17  1:48   ` Guo Ren
2021-08-17  3:24     ` Atish Patra
2021-08-17  6:28       ` Guo Ren
2021-07-23 21:40 ` [RFC 2/5] of: Move of_dma_get_range to of_address.h Atish Patra
2021-07-23 21:40 ` [RFC 3/5] dma-mapping: Enable global non-coherent pool support for RISC-V Atish Patra
2021-07-25 22:29   ` Rob Herring
2021-07-26  7:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-26 22:47     ` Atish Patra
2021-07-27  8:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-02 18:22         ` Atish Patra
2021-07-23 21:40 ` [RFC 4/5] dma-direct: Allocate dma pages directly if global pool allocation fails Atish Patra
2021-07-26  7:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-23 21:40 ` [RFC 5/5] RISC-V: Support a new config option for non-coherent DMA Atish Patra
2021-07-29  4:30 ` [RFC 0/5] Support non-coherent DMA on RISC-V using a global pool Palmer Dabbelt
2021-07-29  6:19   ` Atish Patra
2021-08-17  1:37     ` Guo Ren [this message]
2021-08-17  3:28       ` Atish Patra
2021-08-17  6:42         ` Guo Ren

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