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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Ilsche <thomas.ilsche@tu-dresden.de>,
	Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <mgalbraith@suse.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] cpuidle: poll_state: Add time limit to poll_idle()
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 10:07:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0j3yPem=dXGYyFpxT9WfKVYgk17Av__jp-xZxdsKWYLiw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0iZVVkevY2oJnySoa6uQesMXcj_ZshV97utdXsW2w-aAA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 4:19 AM, Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net> wrote:
>> On 2018.03.22 12:12 Doug Smythies wrote:
>>>On 2018.03.22 09:32 Rik van Riel wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 13:04 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On x86 we don't have to use that time_check_counter thing,
>>>>> sched_clock()
>>>>> is really cheap, not sure if it makes sense on other platforms.
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure? I saw a 5-10% increase in CPU use,
>>>> for a constant query rate to a memcache style
>>>> workload, with v3 of this patch.
>>>
>>> I would very much like to be able to repeat your test results.
>>> However, I am not sure what you mean by "memcache style workload".
>>> Is there a test you can point me to? Say a Phoronix type test, for example.
>>>
>>> All of my tests with the V3 of this patch have been fine.
>>
>> What is the difference between sched_clock() talked about herein,
>> and local_clock() used in the patch?
>
> It is almost the same (modulo offset) unless sched_clock_stable()
> returns 'false'.
>
>> I'm not sure how good it is but I made a test. I didn't believe
>> the results, so I did it 3 times.
>>
>> V7.3 is as from the git branch.
>> V7.3p is plus the patch adding the counter loop to poll_state.c
>>
>> The test is a tight loop (about 19600 loops per second) running
>> on all 8 CPUs. I can not seem to get my system to use Idle State
>> 0, so I disabled Idle States 1 and 2 to force use of Idle State 0.
>>
>> V7.3 uses a processor package power of 62.5 Watts
>> V7.3p uses a processor package power of 53.4 Watts, or 14.6% less power.
>>
>> The loop times do not change.
>> The Idle state 0 residency per unit time does not change.
>
> OK, so this means that the results should improve for Rik with this
> patch too. :-)

BTW, can you possibly check how much of a difference it makes to
reduce POLL_IDLE_COUNT in the patch to, say, 500 or even more?

The lower it is, the less noise it will introduce AFAICS.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-23  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-12  9:36 Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-14 11:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-14 12:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-14 12:08   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-22 16:32   ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-22 19:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-27 16:42     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-27 18:02       ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-27 21:09         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-22 19:11   ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-23  3:19   ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-23  8:57     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-23  9:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2018-03-23 21:30       ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-24 11:25         ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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