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From: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"H . Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 08:16:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqLMtqS3X_2WiPQVoNovQAVTuXGH+XbN30DA5_moca3Kpw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180502081637.GE2285@localhost>

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:16 AM, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 09:05:42AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:10 AM, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 01:16:58PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >> > Add binding for u-blox GNSS receivers.
>> >> >
>> >> > Note that the u-blox product names encodes form factor (e.g. "neo"),
>> >> > chipset (e.g. "8") and variant (e.g. "q"), but that only formfactor and
>> >> > chipset is used for the compatible strings (for now).
>> >> >
>> >> > Signed-off-by: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
>> >> > ---
>> >> >  .../devicetree/bindings/gnss/u-blox.txt       | 31 +++++++++++++++++++
>> >> >  .../devicetree/bindings/vendor-prefixes.txt   |  1 +
>> >> >  2 files changed, 32 insertions(+)
>> >> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gnss/u-blox.txt
>> >> >
>> >> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gnss/u-blox.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gnss/u-blox.txt
>> >> > new file mode 100644
>> >> > index 000000000000..bb54b83a177f
>> >> > --- /dev/null
>> >> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gnss/u-blox.txt
>> >> > @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@
>> >> > +u-blox GNSS Receiver DT binding
>> >> > +
>> >> > +The u-blox GNSS receivers can use UART, DDC (I2C), SPI and USB interfaces.
>> >> > +
>> >> > +Please see Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gnss/gnss.txt for generic
>> >> > +properties.
>> >> > +
>> >> > +Required Properties:
>> >> > +
>> >> > +- compatible   : Must be one of
>> >> > +
>> >> > +                       "u-blox,neo-8"
>> >> > +                       "u-blox,neo-m8"
>> >> > +
>> >> > +- vcc-supply   : Main voltage regulator (VCC)
>> >>
>> >> What about V_BCKP?
>> >
>> > That's the backup supply for for the RTC and batter-backed RAM. In
>> > configurations where a battery is not used it should be connected to
>> > VCC.
>> >
>> > How would you model that? I can enable a vbckp regulator at probe, but
>> > what if someone then accurately describes the corresponding pin as being
>> > connected to VCC?
>>
>> You mean how to model a battery? It would just be a 'regulator'
>> because the regulator binding covers any supply really.
>>
>> Then you just set both rails to the same supply phandle.
>
> Yes, but...
>
>> > I guess we can check if the regulators are identical,
>> > and then just have the driver ignore V_BKUP. Knowing whether there is
>> > a (hopefully charged) battery connected could be useful.
>>
>> Regulators are ref counted, so just enable it twice. Or the driver can
>> just ignore it until it supports battery backup.
>
> ...my point was that in case there's no backup battery, you don't want
> to enable vcc (via v_bckp) at probe (and instead have the device cold
> boot whenever it's used).

Wouldn't that result in very long acquisition times? I guess I was
thinking Vcc would be always on when running and V_bckp was just for
suspend.

> Hence, the driver would need to check if the v_bckp-supply is identical
> to vcc and not enable the former at probe in that case (i.e. similar to
> if no v_bckp had been specified and we considered it optional).

I guess if that's the intended operation, then making it optional is fine.

Rob

>
>> >> > +- timepulse-gpios      : Timepulse (e.g. 1PPS) GPIO (TIMEPULSE)
>> >>
>> >> Why the 3rd "TIMEPULSE"?
>> >
>> > That's the pin name, which in this case is identical to the property
>> > name, so I'll drop it here.
>>
>> Then what is the 2nd "Timepulse"?
>
> That's the generic function name.
>
>> Maybe just a "pin name: X" prefix so it is clear.
>
> For u-blox devices, where property-, function- and pin name coincide, I
> could just change this to:
>
> +- timepulse-gpios      : Timepulse GPIO
>
> and then for the sirfstar binding, which will be used by devices from
> multiple vendors which have decided to name their pins differently, I
> can add a "pin name: " prefix for clarity?

Sounds good.

>> > Take a look at the sirf binding; vendors use different names for their
>> > timepulse pins and in that case I added the actual pin names (1PPS, TM)
>> > in parenthesis after the description.
>> >
>> > Note that I mentioned "timepulse-gpios" in the generic binding with the
>> > intent of trying to enforce a generic name for pins with such a
>> > function (similarly for "enable-gpios", which I guess is already
>> > established).
>>
>> Yes, I think that's good.
>>
>> Though with the enable-gpios I was debating the name for sirfstar a
>> bit because it isn't the normal drive it active to enable, but rather
>> a pulse to enable or disable.
>
> I had some concerns along those lines as well, and if you agree I'll
> change the property name to on_off-gpios (or onoff-gpios) which matches
> the vendor data sheets for this pin, and which I think would be better.

Okay, just add a vendor prefix. And note that using '_' is discouraged.

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-02 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-24 16:34 [PATCH 0/7] gnss: add new GNSS subsystem Johan Hovold
2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 1/7] gnss: add GNSS receiver subsystem Johan Hovold
2018-04-25  8:56   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-25 10:56     ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-25 12:23       ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-29 13:35         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-02  7:57           ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 2/7] dt-bindings: add generic gnss binding Johan Hovold
2018-04-25 18:26   ` Rob Herring
2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 3/7] gnss: add generic serial driver Johan Hovold
2018-04-25  8:57   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-25 10:58     ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-25  9:00   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-25 11:05     ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding Johan Hovold
2018-04-25 18:16   ` Rob Herring
2018-04-26  9:10     ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-01 14:05       ` Rob Herring
2018-05-02  8:16         ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-02 13:16           ` Rob Herring [this message]
2018-05-07  9:06             ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-03  9:35           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-05-03 18:50             ` Andreas Kemnade
2018-05-04  5:16               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-05-04 11:42                 ` Sebastian Reichel
2018-05-04 12:04                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-05-04 13:37                     ` Sebastian Reichel
2018-05-04 14:29                       ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-07 10:07                     ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-07 10:01                   ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-07 15:45                     ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-07 16:34                       ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-07 17:50                         ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-08  6:58                           ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-08 15:22                             ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-08 15:47                               ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-08 15:54                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-08 16:49                                   ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-09 13:10                                     ` OMAP serial runtime PM and autosuspend (was: Re: [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding)) Johan Hovold
2018-05-09 13:57                                       ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-17 10:09                                         ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-17 17:10                                           ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-21 13:48                                             ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-21 15:48                                               ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-24  9:17                                                 ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-24 13:32                                                   ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-25 14:02                                                     ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-08 15:56                         ` [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding Sebastian Reichel
2018-05-09  9:18                           ` Serdev runtime PM (was: Re: [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding) Johan Hovold
2018-05-09  9:49                             ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-09 14:05                             ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-17 10:25                               ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-07  9:47             ` [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding Johan Hovold
2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 5/7] gnss: add driver for u-blox receivers Johan Hovold
2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 6/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add sirfstar binding Johan Hovold
2018-04-25 18:25   ` Rob Herring
2018-04-26  9:12     ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 7/7] gnss: add driver for sirfstar-based receivers Johan Hovold
2018-04-24 17:40 ` [PATCH 0/7] gnss: add new GNSS subsystem H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-04-24 17:50   ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-24 19:44     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-04-25  8:11       ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-26 10:10         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-04-26 18:21           ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-24 20:13 ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-24 20:59   ` Andreas Kemnade
2018-04-25  7:32     ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-25  6:49   ` Marcel Holtmann
2018-04-25  7:24   ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-24 20:38 ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-25  6:26 ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-25  6:51   ` Johan Hovold
2018-04-25  8:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-25 10:31   ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-04 13:27 ` Sebastian Reichel
2018-05-04 20:03   ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-05 17:28     ` Sebastian Reichel
2018-05-05 21:11       ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-06  6:47         ` Marcel Holtmann
2018-05-07 10:20   ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-07 19:06     ` Marcel Holtmann
2018-05-08  7:01       ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-08  7:49         ` Marcel Holtmann
2018-05-08 12:48           ` Johan Hovold
2018-05-08 20:03             ` Marcel Holtmann
2018-05-30 10:26               ` Johan Hovold

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