From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF80C2BB1D for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837282074C for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726545AbgCMKQt (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Mar 2020 06:16:49 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f68.google.com ([209.85.210.68]:33527 "EHLO mail-ot1-f68.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726216AbgCMKQs (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Mar 2020 06:16:48 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f68.google.com with SMTP id g15so9507949otr.0 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 03:16:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Jua92NQloJZLKybkpufWAYb9BLz9N/qiUngHkqkKW74=; b=Semho+Hqn5Du/45WFb+kV+8sNpKG1q+fXnIxCAtXJ/cQLymINRbOc5eDeWBCAnFjrv pkpooLzYODOE2RJgbzpq/w4GWPpi4u+GVbhQ3hJHgzmA6VQEN1BOmVEahcTwgWJjsep9 F54xMvl5VVe80e79HVVLYL9y8j22fe0F3JQa/Ro5s9kEOSZ8uR2pednAKJHKMSYcRHRA 0PqWpkLHK2eHNTrURqXPEkH30sIPXaGnI5nyGt9qrNExHQqd7y5tei9YnBInII2BmjPZ 9Jby8vr5cEiaK6TifjAQPVGLLd1Zdt8bP0IN/1/h95Wz3GVFZOHuwNqlV1CyayyHNkA2 ET+w== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ36dUPNeFN4buIJ+QOOkDZsAIsoIXwvu43jHqix9R4JzBmw2H1u knjqBgJhpLOkyWWSbXCdBUhL0B/SMUmDU9ZOG7E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vtPD5EjMs8XWjMLmd1y66lVZWhosnYNobYGDQsn++67Rqv2tj1vpKQAPtjj2I9seOiikClZpaGzcgYTR/O4YBQ= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:b89:: with SMTP id 9mr10423838oth.297.1584094607744; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 03:16:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6d6dd6fa-880f-01fe-6177-281572aed703@labbott.name> <20200312003436.GF1639@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <20200313031947.GC225435@mit.edu> <87d09gljhj.fsf@intel.com> <20200313093548.GA2089143@kroah.com> <24c64c56-947b-4267-33b8-49a22f719c81@suse.cz> <20200313100755.GA2161605@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20200313100755.GA2161605@kroah.com> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:16:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- Change to charter To: Greg KH Cc: Vlastimil Babka , "Bird, Tim" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Greg, On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:08 AM Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:41:57AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > On 3/13/20 10:35 AM, Greg KH wrote: > > >> Not that I'm saying there's an easy solution, but obviously kernel.org > > >> account is not as problem free as you might think. > > > > > > We are not saying it is "problem free", but what really is the problem > > > with it? > > > > IIUC there is no problem for its current use, but it would be rather restrictive > > if it was used as the only criterion for being able to vote for TAB remotely. > > Given that before now, there has not be any way to vote for the TAB > remotely, it's less restrictive :) But people without kernel.org accounts could still vote in person before, right? Obviously the next step beyond "has a kernel.org account" is "is listed in MAINTAINERS". All of these can be assumed to be real humans, too. However, that's still more restrictive than before, as it rules out people who are not maintainers. So next step would be developers/maintainers with an SoB. I think it's still safe to assume they are real humans, too. Add a minimum number of commits[*] to raise the bar a little bit, and avoid the whitespace-fixers who just want to vote. [*] And e.g. count commits more than one year ago half, more than N years ago 1/2^N. Perhaps add another penalty for staging cleanups ;-) Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds