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From: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
To: "yaoaili [么爱利]" <yaoaili@kingsoft.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Aili Yao <yaoaili126@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: LAPIC: Per vCPU control over kvm_can_post_timer_interrupt
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:24:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANRm+CxAM-h1F3CTNUY6wc-LAgRPDbwFrTPKXS_aoOBx9mveCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3204a646aa9d43d0b9af8da1c5ddf79f@kingsoft.com>

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:11, yaoaili [么爱利] <yaoaili@kingsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 03:14, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021, Aili Yao wrote:
> > > > From: Aili Yao <yaoaili@kingsoft.com>
> > > >
> > > > When we isolate some pyhiscal cores, We may not use them for kvm
> > > > guests, We may use them for other purposes like DPDK, or we can make
> > > > some kvm guests isolated and some not, the global judgement
> > > > pi_inject_timer is not enough; We may make wrong decisions:
> > > >
> > > > In such a scenario, the guests without isolated cores will not be
> > > > permitted to use vmx preemption timer, and tscdeadline fastpath also
> > > > be disabled, both will lead to performance penalty.
> > > >
> > > > So check whether the vcpu->cpu is isolated, if not, don't post timer
> > > > interrupt.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Aili Yao <yaoaili@kingsoft.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c | 4 +++-
> > > >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c b/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c index
> > > > 759952dd1222..72dde5532101 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c
> > > > @@ -34,6 +34,7 @@
> > > >  #include <asm/delay.h>
> > > >  #include <linux/atomic.h>
> > > >  #include <linux/jump_label.h>
> > > > +#include <linux/sched/isolation.h>
> > > >  #include "kvm_cache_regs.h"
> > > >  #include "irq.h"
> > > >  #include "ioapic.h"
> > > > @@ -113,7 +114,8 @@ static inline u32 kvm_x2apic_id(struct kvm_lapic
> > > > *apic)
> > > >
> > > >  static bool kvm_can_post_timer_interrupt(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)  {
> > > > -     return pi_inject_timer && kvm_vcpu_apicv_active(vcpu);
> > > > +     return pi_inject_timer && kvm_vcpu_apicv_active(vcpu) &&
> > > > +             !housekeeping_cpu(vcpu->cpu, HK_FLAG_TIMER);
> > >
> > > I don't think this is safe, vcpu->cpu will be -1 if the vCPU isn't scheduled in.
>
> Yes, vcpu->cpu is  -1 before vcpu create, but in my environments, it didn't
> trigger this issue. I need to dig more, Thanks!
> Maybe I need one valid check here.
>
> > > This also doesn't play nice with the admin forcing pi_inject_timer=1.
> > > Not saying there's a reasonable use case for doing that, but it's
> > > supported today and this would break that behavior.  It would also
> > > lead to weird behavior if a vCPU were migrated on/off a housekeeping
> > > vCPU.  Again, probably not a reasonable use case, but I don't see anything
> > that would outright prevent that behavior.
>
> Yes,  this is not one common operation,  But I did do test some scenarios:
> 1. isolated cpu --> housekeeping cpu;
>     isolated guest timer is in housekeeping CPU, for migration, kvm_can_post_timer_interrupt
>     will return false, so the timer may be migrated to vcpu->cpu;
>     This seems works in my test;
> 2. isolated --> isolated
>     Isolated guest timer is in housekeeping cpu, for migration,kvm_can_post_timer_interrupt return
>     true, timer is not migrated
> 3. housekeeping CPU --> isolated CPU
>     non-isolated CPU timer is usually in vcpu->cpu, for migration to isolated, kvm_can_post_timer_interrupt
>     will be true,  the timer remain on the same CPU;
>     This seems works in my test;
> 4. housekeeping CPU --> housekeeping CPU
>      timer migrated;
> It seems this is not an affecting problem;
>
> > >
> > > The existing behavior also feels a bit unsafe as pi_inject_timer is
> > > writable while KVM is running, though I supposed that's orthogonal to this
> > discussion.
> > >
> > > Rather than check vcpu->cpu, is there an existing vCPU flag that can
> > > be queried, e.g. KVM_HINTS_REALTIME?
> >
> > How about something like below:
> >
> > From 67f605120e212384cb3d5788ba8c83f15659503b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00
> > 2001
> > From: Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>
> > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 10:36:10 +0800
> > Subject: [PATCH] KVM: LAPIC: To keep the vCPUs in non-root mode for timer-
> > pi
> >
> > From: Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>
> >
> > As commit 0c5f81dad46 (KVM: LAPIC: Inject timer interrupt via posted
> > interrupt) mentioned that the host admin should well tune the guest setup,
> > so that vCPUs are placed on isolated pCPUs, and with several pCPUs surplus
> > for
> > *busy* housekeeping.
> > It is better to disable mwait/hlt/pause vmexits to keep the vCPUs in non-root
> > mode. However, we may isolate pCPUs for other purpose like DPDK or we
> > can make some guests isolated and others not, Let's add the checking
> > kvm_mwait_in_guest() to kvm_can_post_timer_interrupt() since we can't
> > benefit from timer posted-interrupt w/o keeping the vCPUs in non-root
> > mode.
> >
> > Reported-by: Aili Yao <yaoaili@kingsoft.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>
> > ---
> >  arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c | 5 ++---
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c b/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c index
> > 759952dd1222..8257566d44c7 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c
> > @@ -113,14 +113,13 @@ static inline u32 kvm_x2apic_id(struct kvm_lapic
> > *apic)
> >
> >  static bool kvm_can_post_timer_interrupt(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)  {
> > -    return pi_inject_timer && kvm_vcpu_apicv_active(vcpu);
> > +    return pi_inject_timer && kvm_mwait_in_guest(vcpu->kvm) &&
> > kvm_vcpu_apicv_active(vcpu);
> >  }
> >
> >  bool kvm_can_use_hv_timer(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)  {
> >      return kvm_x86_ops.set_hv_timer
> > -           && !(kvm_mwait_in_guest(vcpu->kvm) ||
> > -            kvm_can_post_timer_interrupt(vcpu));
> > +           && !kvm_mwait_in_guest(vcpu->kvm);
> >  }
> >  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(kvm_can_use_hv_timer);
>
> This method seems more quick and safe, but I have one question: Does this kvm_mwait_in_guest
> can guarantee the CPU isolated,  in some production environments and usually,  MWAIT feature is disabled in host
> and even guests with isolated CPUs.  And also we can set guests kvm_mwait_in_guest true with CPUs just pinned, not isolated.

You won't benefit from timer posted-interrupt if mwait is not exposed
to the guest since you can't keep CPU in non-root mode.
kvm_mwait_in_guest() will not guarantee the CPU is isolated, but
what's still bothering?

   Wanpeng

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-23  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-22  1:58 Aili Yao
2021-11-22 19:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-23  2:57   ` Wanpeng Li
2021-11-23  4:11     ` yaoaili [么爱利]
2021-11-23  6:24       ` Wanpeng Li [this message]
2021-11-23  7:02         ` Aili Yao
2021-11-23  7:22           ` Wanpeng Li
2021-11-23  8:18   ` Aili Yao
2021-11-29  3:28     ` Aili Yao

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