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From: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn> To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> Cc: Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: [patch] Converting writeback linked lists to a tree based data structure Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:25:53 +0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <400457571.32162@ustc.edu.cn> (raw) Message-ID: <E1JEzqb-0003YX-Rg@localhost.localdomain> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20080115194415.64ba95f2.akpm@linux-foundation.org> On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:44:15PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:01:08 +0800 Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:53:42AM -0800, Michael Rubin wrote: > > > On Jan 15, 2008 12:46 AM, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote: > > > > Just a quick question, how does this interact/depend-uppon etc.. with > > > > Fengguangs patches I still have in my mailbox? (Those from Dec 28th) > > > > > > They don't. They apply to a 2.6.24rc7 tree. This is a candidte for 2.6.25. > > > > > > This work was done before Fengguang's patches. I am trying to test > > > Fengguang's for comparison but am having problems with getting mm1 to > > > boot on my systems. > > > > Yeah, they are independent ones. The initial motivation is to fix the > > bug "sluggish writeback on small+large files". Michael introduced > > a new rbtree, and me introduced a new list(s_more_io_wait). > > > > Basically I think rbtree is an overkill to do time based ordering. > > Sorry, Michael. But s_dirty would be enough for that. Plus, s_more_io > > provides fair queuing between small/large files, and s_more_io_wait > > provides waiting mechanism for blocked inodes. > > > > The time ordered rbtree may delay io for a blocked inode simply by > > modifying its dirtied_when and reinsert it. But it would no longer be > > that easy if it is to be ordered by location. > > What does the term "ordered by location" mean? Attemting to sort inodes by > physical disk address? By using their i_ino as a key? > > That sounds optimistic. Yes, exactly. Think about email servers with lots of dirty files. > > If we are going to do location based ordering in the future, the lists > > will continue to be useful. It would simply be a matter of switching > > from the s_dirty(order by time) to some rbtree or radix tree(order by > > location). > > > > We can even provide both ordering at the same time to different > > fs/inodes which is configurable by the user. Because the s_dirty > > and/or rbtree would provide _only_ ordering(not faireness or waiting) > > and hence is interchangeable. > > > > This patchset could be a good reference. It does location based > > ordering with radix tree: > > > > [RFC][PATCH] clustered writeback <http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/27/45> > > list_heads are just the wrong data structure for this function. Especially > list_heads which are protected by a non-sleeping lock. list_heads are OK if we use them for one and only function. We have been trying to jam too much into s_dirty in the past. Grabbing a refcount could be better than locking - anyway if we split the functions today, it would be easy to replace the list_heads one by one in the future.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-16 4:26 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2008-01-15 8:09 [patch] Converting writeback linked lists to a tree based data structure Michael Rubin 2008-01-15 8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra 2008-01-15 17:53 ` Michael Rubin [not found] ` <400452490.28636@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-16 3:01 ` Fengguang Wu 2008-01-16 3:44 ` Andrew Morton [not found] ` <400457571.32162@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-16 4:25 ` Fengguang Wu 2008-01-16 4:42 ` Andrew Morton [not found] ` <400459376.04290@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-16 4:55 ` Fengguang Wu 2008-01-16 5:51 ` Andrew Morton [not found] ` <400474447.19383@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-16 9:07 ` Fengguang Wu 2008-01-16 22:35 ` David Chinner [not found] ` <400539769.00869@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-17 3:16 ` Fengguang Wu 2008-01-17 5:21 ` David Chinner 2008-01-18 7:36 ` Mike Waychison 2008-01-16 7:55 ` David Chinner 2008-01-16 8:13 ` Andrew Morton [not found] ` <400488821.15609@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-16 13:06 ` Fengguang Wu 2008-01-16 18:55 ` Michael Rubin [not found] ` <400540692.29046@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-17 3:31 ` Fengguang Wu [not found] ` <400562938.07583@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-17 9:41 ` Fengguang Wu 2008-01-17 21:07 ` Michael Rubin 2008-01-18 5:01 ` David Chinner 2008-01-18 5:38 ` Michael Rubin 2008-01-18 8:54 ` David Chinner 2008-01-18 9:26 ` Michael Rubin [not found] ` <400634919.20750@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-18 5:41 ` Fengguang Wu 2008-01-19 2:50 ` David Chinner [not found] ` <400632190.14601@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-18 4:56 ` Fengguang Wu 2008-01-18 5:41 ` Andi Kleen [not found] ` <400644314.11994@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-18 6:01 ` Fengguang Wu 2008-01-18 7:48 ` Mike Waychison 2008-01-18 6:43 ` Michael Rubin [not found] ` <400651538.20437@ustc.edu.cn> 2008-01-18 9:32 ` Fengguang Wu -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below -- 2007-12-13 0:32 Michael Rubin
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