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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	jroedel@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/pkeys: copy pkey state at fork()
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:12:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FA6429E0-C480-47AA-AAF0-95E615D8265B@amacapital.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+DvKQLpizz2LJppOts1fB6ujQNqj0fii8mo-UfosoYpQWRb5g@mail.gmail.com>



> On Oct 26, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I ended up working around this with a pthread_atfork handler disabling
> my usage of the feature in the child process for the time being. I
> don't have an easy way to detect if the bug is present within a
> library so

Can you not just make sure that the fix is backported to all relevant kernels?

I suppose we could add a new flag for pkey_get() or something.

> I'm going to need a kernel version check with a table of
> kernel releases fixing the problem for each stable branch.

That won’t work right on district kernels. Please don’t go there.

> 
> It would be helpful if there was a new cpuinfo flag to check if the
> MPK state is preserved on fork in addition to the existing ospke flag.
> The problem will fade away over time but in my experience there are a
> lot of people using distributions with kernels not incorporating all
> of the stable fixes. I expect other people will run into the problem
> once hardware with MPK is more widely available and other people try
> to use it for various things like moving GC or assorted security
> features. Someone will end up running software adopting it on an older
> kernel with the problem.
> 
> The clobbering issue I found with MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE isn't quite
> as annoying because it was easy to make a runtime test usable in a library
> to see if the feature works properly.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-26 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-26 19:51 Dave Hansen
2018-10-26 19:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/selftests/pkeys: fork() to check for state being preserved Dave Hansen
2018-10-26 19:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/pkeys: copy pkey state at fork() Dave Hansen
2018-10-26 21:39   ` Daniel Micay
2018-10-26 22:12     ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2018-10-26 22:56       ` Daniel Micay
2018-10-29  6:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-29  8:55           ` Daniel Micay
2018-11-20 21:14   ` Kees Cook
2019-01-09  0:56     ` Kees Cook

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