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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Starikovskiy <astarikovskiy@suse.de>,
	David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 6)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:11:14 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0804021007060.14858-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200804012350.01407.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

> > If the device is gone, it doesn't much matter what resume() returns.
> 
> Yes, it does.  In that cases, the error code would tell the PM core not to attempt
> to resume the device's children etc.

If the device is gone then so are its descendants, right?  So it 
doesn't matter whether the PM core tries to resume them.

>  Otherwise, it's quite meaningless to the
> PM core, because it really can mean anything and how's the PM core supposed
> to handle _that_?

Exactly.  This is the point I was trying to make a week or so ago.

> Either we decide that the error codes returned by ->resume() mean critical
> errors or there's no point in returning error codes from ->resume() at all
> (other than logging the errors by the core).
> 
> Well, that's getting confused.  I think I'll have to rework the patch not to
> really handle the errors returned by ->resume() and friends, after all, but
> I'll keep the reporting of them.
> 
> However, I'd like to add a recommendation that the _new_ "resume" callbacks
> should only return errors in critical situations as the indication to the PM
> core that something went _really_ wrong and the device in question is quite
> surely unusable.

Agreed.  The most important aspect is that drivers should _not_ return
an error if the device is working correctly.  We should fix the drivers 
which make this mistake.

Alan Stern


  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-02 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-29 22:17 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] PM: Rework suspend and hibernation code for devices (rev. 3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-29 22:20 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-30  2:54   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-31 21:29     ` [RFC][PATCH] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 6) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-01  8:15       ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-01  8:27         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-01 14:31           ` Alan Stern
2008-04-01 19:34             ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-01 20:16           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-01 20:12         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-01 20:56           ` Alan Stern
2008-04-01 21:38             ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-01 21:59               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-01 21:50             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-02 14:11               ` Alan Stern [this message]
2008-04-02 14:22                 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-02 15:13                   ` Alan Stern
2008-04-02 15:28                     ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-02 16:42                       ` Alan Stern
2008-04-02 20:11                         ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-02 20:28                           ` Alan Stern
2008-04-01 21:35           ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-01 21:57             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-01 22:32               ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-01 23:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-01  8:37       ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-01 20:23         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-29 22:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for platform bus type (rev. 3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-30  2:56   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-29 22:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI " Rafael J. Wysocki

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