hda Kernel error!!!

hda Kernel error!!!

[system]

Hello All,
  When today I checked the server logs with logwatch I found under kernel 
section a very long messages about the kernel .
  I am usuall checking the logs daily,but I didn;t see the kernel sction so 
long before.
 In that I found warning about kernel error!!

WARNING:  Kernel Errors Present
   hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStat...:  1Time(s)
   hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }...:  1Time(s)

What is this error?
Dose this indicate error on hda?
Should I replace hda?OR it's different from all these?
Please help thank you...

Re: hda Kernel error!!!

[Jan Meizner]

On Sat, 22 May 2004, system wrote:

> Hello All,
>  In that I found warning about kernel error!!
> 
> WARNING:  Kernel Errors Present
>    hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStat...:  1Time(s)
>    hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }...:  1Time(s)
> 
> What is this error?
> Dose this indicate error on hda?
> Should I replace hda?OR it's different from all these?
> Please help thank you...

Mayby I'm not kernel expert yet, but IMVHO it looks like hardware (hard 
drive) problem. 
You could do some tests on this drive using programs like badblocks or 
similar. I have problem like that and in this case it was hardware 
problem (drive had guarantee, and manufactor replaced it, so it had to be broken).
So AFAIK this type of error indicates serious problem with hardware, 
unfortunately.
Is there in logs any other similar messages in the neighbourhood of these, 
you write here?

Best Regards,
Jan Meizner
jm@jm.one.pl

Re: hda Kernel error!!!

[Flavio Stanchina]

system wrote:
>    hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStat...:  1Time(s)
>    hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }...:  1Time(s)
> 
> What is this error?

You need to tell us:
- kernel version
- make and model of the hard disk
- make and model of the controller (or chipset)

If you are using kernel 2.6.6 and a Maxtor disk, then it's a known 
problem. Search the LKML archives and look at the post-2.6.6 changes to 
drivers/ide/ide-disk.c.

-- 
Ciao, Flavio

Re: hda Kernel error!!!

[Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz]

On Saturday 22 of May 2004 15:29, Jan Meizner wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2004, system wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >  In that I found warning about kernel error!!
> >
> > WARNING:  Kernel Errors Present
> >    hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStat...:  1Time(s)
> >    hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }...: 
> > 1Time(s)
> >
> > What is this error?
> > Dose this indicate error on hda?
> > Should I replace hda?OR it's different from all these?
> > Please help thank you...
>
> Mayby I'm not kernel expert yet, but IMVHO it looks like hardware (hard
> drive) problem.

Quite the opposite.  It only means that command was aborted.

This frequently happens on older devices under 2.4 and is usually harmless.
[ This issue was discussed few times already. ]

Re: hda Kernel error!!!

[John Bradford]

Quote from Jan Meizner <jm@pa103.nowa-wies.sdi.tpnet.pl>:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 22 May 2004, system wrote:
> 
> > Hello All,
> >  In that I found warning about kernel error!!
> > 
> > WARNING:  Kernel Errors Present
> >    hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStat...:  1Time(s)
> >    hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }...:  1Time(s)
> > 
> > What is this error?
> > Dose this indicate error on hda?
> > Should I replace hda?OR it's different from all these?
> > Please help thank you...
> 
> Mayby I'm not kernel expert yet, but IMVHO it looks like hardware (hard 
> drive) problem. 

It means the disk received a command it didn't support.  It's easy to
trigger by disabling S.M.A.R.T. and then requesting S.M.A.R.T. data, for
example.

> You could do some tests on this drive using programs like badblocks or 
> similar. I have problem like that and in this case it was hardware 
> problem (drive had guarantee, and manufactor replaced it, so it had to be broken).
> So AFAIK this type of error indicates serious problem with hardware, 
> unfortunately.

It does not necessarily indicate a serious problem.  Are you sure your
error messages were exactly the same?

John.

Re: hda Kernel error!!!

[JG]

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> It does not necessarily indicate a serious problem.  Are you sure your
> error messages were exactly the same?

while we are at it. some days ago i got this:
hdi: task_in_intr: status=0x7f { DriveReady DeviceFault SeekComplete DataRequest CorrectedError Index Error }
hdi: task_in_intr: error=0x7f { DriveStatusError UncorrectableError SectorIdNotFound TrackZeroNotFound AddrMarkNotFound }, LBAsect=280923064991615, high=16744319, low=8355711, sector=1130361
ide4: reset: success

maxtor 200gb disk (2x100gb partitions, both reiserfs 3.6) on highpoint hpt374. i wasn't able to access the disk anymore until reboot and lost data. also got a kernel bug message regarding to reiserfs.

end_request: I/O error, dev hdi, sector 199201724
Buffer I/O error on device hdi2, logical block 7498
lost page write due to I/O error on hdi2
journal-601, buffer write failed
------------[ cut here ]------------
kernel BUG at fs/reiserfs/prints.c:339!
invalid operand: 0000 [#2]
CPU:    0
EIP:    0060:[<f1134388>]    Not tainted
EFLAGS: 00210286
EIP is at reiserfs_panic+0x38/0x70 [reiserfs]
eax: 00000024   ebx: eeea3800   ecx: 00000001   edx: c0314cd8
esi: f127a1e8   edi: 00000000   ebp: 00000000   esp: db62fe00
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process umount (pid: 31023, threadinfo=db62e000 task=dc6f0660)
Stack: f114c446 f11522e0 f127a1e8 eeea3800 f113ff0e eeea3800 f114a240 00000000
       00001000 00000002 00000005 00000003 00000000 d9db61dc 00000110 00000004
       eeea3800 00000000 f114480d eeea3800 f127a1e8 00000001 00001000 e2e52d00
Call Trace:
 [<f113ff0e>] flush_commit_list+0x2ee/0x480 [reiserfs]
 [<f114480d>] do_journal_end+0x9dd/0xcb0 [reiserfs]
 [<f1140d09>] do_journal_release+0x89/0x100 [reiserfs]
 [<f1143048>] journal_mark_dirty+0x158/0x2e0 [reiserfs]
 [<f1131b8b>] reiserfs_destroy_inode+0x1b/0x20 [reiserfs]
 [<f1140d9f>] journal_release+0x1f/0x30 [reiserfs]
 [<f1131a15>] reiserfs_put_super+0x25/0x150 [reiserfs]
 [<c0152f15>] generic_shutdown_super+0xf5/0x110
 [<c015381d>] kill_block_super+0x1d/0x50
 [<c0152d58>] deactivate_super+0x48/0x80
 [<c0166fef>] sys_umount+0x3f/0x90
 [<c0142704>] sys_munmap+0x44/0x70
 [<c0167057>] sys_oldumount+0x17/0x20
 [<c0108cbb>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb

Code: 0f 0b 53 01 4c c4 14 f1 c7 04 24 60 8c 14 f1 c7 44 24 08 e0


the weird thing is, S.M.A.R.T doesn't show any current problems with the disk and there's nothing in the S.M.A.R.T error log...?
can't remember exactly which kernel i was running, i've tried too many lately because of this error (either 2.6.2 or some 2.6.6), currently i have 2.6.6-mm3.

thx,
JG

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Re: hda Kernel error!!!

[John Bradford]

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>  
> > It does not necessarily indicate a serious problem.  Are you sure your
> > error messages were exactly the same?
> 
> while we are at it. some days ago i got this:
> hdi: task_in_intr: status=0x7f { DriveReady DeviceFault SeekComplete DataRequest CorrectedError Index Error }
> hdi: task_in_intr: error=0x7f { DriveStatusError UncorrectableError SectorIdNotFound TrackZeroNotFound AddrMarkNotFound }, LBAsect=280923064991615, high=16744319, low=8355711, sector=1130361
> ide4: reset: success

Look at the LBAsect requested - this is far beyond the end of the disk, which
explains why it returned address mark not found - the sector doesn't exist.

John.

Re: hda Kernel error!!!

[Eric D. Mudama]

On Sat, May 22 at 17:23, Flavio Stanchina wrote:
>system wrote:
>>    hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStat...:  1Time(s)
>>    hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }...:  
>>    1Time(s)
>>
>>What is this error?
>
>You need to tell us:
>- kernel version
>- make and model of the hard disk
>- make and model of the controller (or chipset)
>
>If you are using kernel 2.6.6 and a Maxtor disk, then it's a known 
>problem. Search the LKML archives and look at the post-2.6.6 changes to 
>drivers/ide/ide-disk.c.

There are hundreds, if not thousands of ways to get a 0x5104 response
from an IDE drive.  Without more information on what was going on at
the time, it's tough to say whether this is the same issue.

Only a few Maxtor drives (relatively) were affected with this most
recent issue, and the original author didn't post a drive model
number.

--eric


-- 
Eric D. Mudama
edmudama@mail.bounceswoosh.org

Re: hda Kernel error!!!

[Jan Meizner]

On Sat, 22 May 2004, John Bradford wrote:

> Quote from Jan Meizner <jm@pa103.nowa-wies.sdi.tpnet.pl>:
> > 
> > 
> > > WARNING:  Kernel Errors Present
> > >    hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStat...:  1Time(s)
> > >    hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }...:  1Time(s)
> > > 
[...]
> > So AFAIK this type of error indicates serious problem with hardware, 
> > unfortunately.
> 
> It does not necessarily indicate a serious problem.  Are you sure your
> error messages were exactly the same?
Probably you're right. I should rather say it might be an error. I had 
similar error (i couldn't found log now) but it may differ a bit, and I 
also get some additional errors (I/O errors).

BTW maybe somebody have similar problem. Unfortunately it's not my machine 
so I cannot do any test other then looking at dmesg. There is kernel 
2.4.26. When my friend try to use put there his hard drive (old Segate 
8GB) it get during boot, or while trying to acces drive (depend on which 
computer he tries) 4 times CRC Error and machine complitly freeze (don't 
react on anything, no opps, no panic).
When I tried to use my Segate (3.2GB) i got lost interupt errors at boot 
time.

Both drives are ok (I've checked them).

If somebody have any idea what the problem is, I would be very grateful 
for advice. I could provide specyfic drive types later if it makes any 
sens.

Best Regards
Jan Meizner