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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
@ 2006-09-12  3:32 Randy Dunlap
  2006-09-12  7:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
  2006-09-12 15:41 ` Lee Revell
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Randy Dunlap @ 2006-09-12  3:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Victor Hugo, linux-kernel



> 
> 
> As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text only 
> e-mail without
> wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any 
suggestions 
> about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
> Thunderbird?? Telnet??

pine (but make sure that it doesn't truncate trailing whitespace)
or mutt or sylpheed are all good.  tbird can be coerced into
working but it's not much fun (well, using attachments is easy,
but not good for people when reviewing/commenting on patches).

---
~Randy

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-12  3:32 [RFC] e-mail clients Randy Dunlap
@ 2006-09-12  7:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
  2006-09-12 12:58   ` Stefan Richter
  2006-09-12 23:16   ` Randy.Dunlap
  2006-09-12 15:41 ` Lee Revell
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2006-09-12  7:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Randy Dunlap; +Cc: Victor Hugo, linux-kernel

>
>pine (but make sure that it doesn't truncate trailing whitespace)

Truncating whitespace at EOL is a good thing. Otherwise, quilt says

Warning: trailing whitespace in lines 237,364 of 
net/ipv4/netfilter/regexp/regexp.c
Warning: trailing whitespace in line 57 of 
net/ipv4/netfilter/regexp/regsub.c
Warning: trailing whitespace in lines 307,308,309 of 
net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_layer7.c

for example. Long lines are usually not broken up if pasted verbatim as this example line will show for sure abc.

pine wraps text only when typing (at least that's how I configured
mine), so it is all safe.


Jan Engelhardt
-- 

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-12  7:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2006-09-12 12:58   ` Stefan Richter
  2006-09-12 17:34     ` Segher Boessenkool
  2006-09-12 23:16   ` Randy.Dunlap
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Richter @ 2006-09-12 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Engelhardt; +Cc: Randy Dunlap, Victor Hugo, linux-kernel

Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>> pine (but make sure that it doesn't truncate trailing whitespace)
> 
> Truncating whitespace at EOL is a good thing.
[...]

Trailing whitespace should be removed before generating the patch, not
while sending the patch.
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-=-==- =--= -==--
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-12  3:32 [RFC] e-mail clients Randy Dunlap
  2006-09-12  7:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2006-09-12 15:41 ` Lee Revell
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Lee Revell @ 2006-09-12 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Randy Dunlap; +Cc: Victor Hugo, linux-kernel

On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 20:32 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text only 
> > e-mail without
> > wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any 
> suggestions 
> > about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
> > Thunderbird?? Telnet??
> 
> pine (but make sure that it doesn't truncate trailing whitespace)
> or mutt or sylpheed are all good.  tbird can be coerced into
> working but it's not much fun (well, using attachments is easy,
> but not good for people when reviewing/commenting on patches).

It's easy to post correct patches with Evolution...

Lee


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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-12 12:58   ` Stefan Richter
@ 2006-09-12 17:34     ` Segher Boessenkool
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Segher Boessenkool @ 2006-09-12 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Richter; +Cc: Jan Engelhardt, Randy Dunlap, Victor Hugo, linux-kernel

>> Truncating whitespace at EOL is a good thing.
> [...]
>
> Trailing whitespace should be removed before generating the patch, not
> while sending the patch.

And not even then, when the patch is removing trailing
whitespace :-)


Segher


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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-12  7:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
  2006-09-12 12:58   ` Stefan Richter
@ 2006-09-12 23:16   ` Randy.Dunlap
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Randy.Dunlap @ 2006-09-12 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Engelhardt; +Cc: Victor Hugo, linux-kernel

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:08:37 +0200 (MEST) Jan Engelhardt wrote:

> >
> >pine (but make sure that it doesn't truncate trailing whitespace)
> 
> Truncating whitespace at EOL is a good thing. Otherwise, quilt says
> 
> Warning: trailing whitespace in lines 237,364 of 
> net/ipv4/netfilter/regexp/regexp.c
> Warning: trailing whitespace in line 57 of 
> net/ipv4/netfilter/regexp/regsub.c
> Warning: trailing whitespace in lines 307,308,309 of 
> net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_layer7.c

Of course.  But there were/are versions of pine that truncate
whitespace "for you," even if such truncation is not desired,
independent of quilt et al.  So one wouldn't want to use that
"feature" for kernel patches.


> for example. Long lines are usually not broken up if pasted verbatim as this example line will show for sure abc.
> 
> pine wraps text only when typing (at least that's how I configured
> mine), so it is all safe.

---
~Randy

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  8:17     ` Jan Engelhardt
  2006-09-08  8:31       ` Michal Piotrowski
@ 2006-09-08 22:54       ` Pavel Machek
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2006-09-08 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Engelhardt; +Cc: Michal Piotrowski, Victor Hugo, linux-kernel

On Fri 08-09-06 10:17:04, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> 
> >> Telnet is something very different.
> 
> Even though all four geometric figures in IQ tests have something in comment
> (they're triangular for example), they are different to a certain degree that
> one falls apart. Any IQ test has some sort of that.
> So, which one does not belong in the group?
> ( ) pine
> ( ) mutt
> ( ) Thunderbird
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
thunderbird -- the only one that requires X :-).

> ( ) telnet
> 
> That was my point.

							Pavel
-- 
IQ 5 -- can detect light

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08 13:18     ` Gene Heskett
  2006-09-08 16:04       ` Vadim Lobanov
@ 2006-09-08 16:06       ` Ondrej Zary
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Ondrej Zary @ 2006-09-08 16:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gene Heskett; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Friday 08 September 2006 15:18, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 08 September 2006 08:54, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
> >Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 10:24 schrieb Jesper Juhl:
> >> On 08/09/06, Victor Hugo <victor@vhugo.net> wrote:
> >> > As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text
> >> > only e-mail without
> >> > wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any
> >> > suggestions about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
> >> > Thunderbird?? Telnet??
> >>
> >> I personally use both 'pine' and 'kmail' and they both work perfectly
> >> for sending patches.
> >
> >With kmail, you have control over line breaks with Option -> Wrap lines,
> >which is useful for e.g. pasted syslog data, but remember to enable it
> >before writing the message, since you have to manually add line breaks
> >for the entered text too.
> >
> >Inlined patches should be added via Message -> Insert File to preserve
> >line breaks and white space.
>
> But be sure and turn word wrapping off before inserting the file, or
> pasting (usually bad I might add).  And my version of kmail wraps the
> whole document if the wrapping is turned back on, as it is now.  Which
> makes it rather frustrating.

To workaround this, I first type the message with wordwrapping on, then close 
the message window and let it save the message to Drafts. Then repoen the 
message from Drafts, turn off wordwrap and insert the patch using 
Message->Insert File. It's not great but still better than Thunderbird.

>
> >Pete
> >-
> >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"
> > in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> >More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
> >Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

-- 
Ondrej Zary

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08 13:18     ` Gene Heskett
@ 2006-09-08 16:04       ` Vadim Lobanov
  2006-09-08 16:06       ` Ondrej Zary
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Vadim Lobanov @ 2006-09-08 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gene Heskett; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Friday 08 September 2006 06:18, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 08 September 2006 08:54, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
> >Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 10:24 schrieb Jesper Juhl:
> >> I personally use both 'pine' and 'kmail' and they both work perfectly
> >> for sending patches.
> >
> >With kmail, you have control over line breaks with Option -> Wrap lines,
> >which is useful for e.g. pasted syslog data, but remember to enable it
> >before writing the message, since you have to manually add line breaks
> >for the entered text too.
> >
> >Inlined patches should be added via Message -> Insert File to preserve
> >line breaks and white space.
>
> But be sure and turn word wrapping off before inserting the file, or
> pasting (usually bad I might add).  And my version of kmail wraps the
> whole document if the wrapping is turned back on, as it is now.  Which
> makes it rather frustrating.

Strange. I leave my KMail to word-wrap always, in which case Message -> Insert 
File automatically turns off any and all text munging when it is inserting 
the chosen file. No need to toggle any switches here, either before or after 
inserting.

FWIW, KMail 1.9.1 shipped with openSUSE 10.1

-- Vadim Lobanov

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  0:02 Victor Hugo
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2006-09-08 10:54 ` Stefan Richter
@ 2006-09-08 14:53 ` Brice Goglin
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Brice Goglin @ 2006-09-08 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Victor Hugo; +Cc: linux-kernel

Victor Hugo wrote:
> As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text only
> e-mail without
> wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any
> suggestions about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
> Thunderbird?? Telnet??

Mutt does the job very well.

Thunderbird requires that you switch to preformat style before
copy-pasting the patch (or use the external editor extension).

Brice


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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08 12:54   ` Hans-Peter Jansen
  2006-09-08 13:18     ` Gene Heskett
@ 2006-09-08 14:05     ` Alistair John Strachan
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Alistair John Strachan @ 2006-09-08 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans-Peter Jansen; +Cc: linux-kernel, Jesper Juhl, Victor Hugo

On Friday 08 September 2006 13:54, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
> Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 10:24 schrieb Jesper Juhl:
> > On 08/09/06, Victor Hugo <victor@vhugo.net> wrote:
> > > As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text
> > > only e-mail without
> > > wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any
> > > suggestions about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
> > > Thunderbird?? Telnet??
> >
> > I personally use both 'pine' and 'kmail' and they both work perfectly
> > for sending patches.
>
> With kmail, you have control over line breaks with Option -> Wrap lines,
> which is useful for e.g. pasted syslog data, but remember to enable it
> before writing the message, since you have to manually add line breaks
> for the entered text too.
>
> Inlined patches should be added via Message -> Insert File to preserve
> line breaks and white space.

Another great feature of KMail is the ability to use an external editor for 
composition, but not be forced to use it for reading emails. If you find the 
KMail composer too clumsy, you can always have it fire up vim or emacs.

Settings -> Configure KMail -> Composer -> External Editor

-- 
Cheers,
Alistair.

Final year Computer Science undergraduate.
1F2 55 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh, UK.

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08 12:54   ` Hans-Peter Jansen
@ 2006-09-08 13:18     ` Gene Heskett
  2006-09-08 16:04       ` Vadim Lobanov
  2006-09-08 16:06       ` Ondrej Zary
  2006-09-08 14:05     ` Alistair John Strachan
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Gene Heskett @ 2006-09-08 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

On Friday 08 September 2006 08:54, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
>Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 10:24 schrieb Jesper Juhl:
>> On 08/09/06, Victor Hugo <victor@vhugo.net> wrote:
>> > As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text
>> > only e-mail without
>> > wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any
>> > suggestions about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
>> > Thunderbird?? Telnet??
>>
>> I personally use both 'pine' and 'kmail' and they both work perfectly
>> for sending patches.
>
>With kmail, you have control over line breaks with Option -> Wrap lines,
>which is useful for e.g. pasted syslog data, but remember to enable it
>before writing the message, since you have to manually add line breaks
>for the entered text too.
>
>Inlined patches should be added via Message -> Insert File to preserve
>line breaks and white space.
>
But be sure and turn word wrapping off before inserting the file, or 
pasting (usually bad I might add).  And my version of kmail wraps the 
whole document if the wrapping is turned back on, as it is now.  Which 
makes it rather frustrating.

>Pete
>-
>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"
> in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
>More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene Heskett are:
Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  8:24 ` Jesper Juhl
  2006-09-08 10:29   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2006-09-08 12:54   ` Hans-Peter Jansen
  2006-09-08 13:18     ` Gene Heskett
  2006-09-08 14:05     ` Alistair John Strachan
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Hans-Peter Jansen @ 2006-09-08 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel; +Cc: Jesper Juhl, Victor Hugo

Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 10:24 schrieb Jesper Juhl:
> On 08/09/06, Victor Hugo <victor@vhugo.net> wrote:
> > As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text
> > only e-mail without
> > wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any
> > suggestions about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
> > Thunderbird?? Telnet??
>
> I personally use both 'pine' and 'kmail' and they both work perfectly
> for sending patches.

With kmail, you have control over line breaks with Option -> Wrap lines, 
which is useful for e.g. pasted syslog data, but remember to enable it 
before writing the message, since you have to manually add line breaks 
for the entered text too.

Inlined patches should be added via Message -> Insert File to preserve 
line breaks and white space.

Pete

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  0:02 Victor Hugo
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2006-09-08  8:47 ` Paolo Ornati
@ 2006-09-08 10:54 ` Stefan Richter
  2006-09-08 14:53 ` Brice Goglin
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Richter @ 2006-09-08 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Victor Hugo; +Cc: linux-kernel

Victor Hugo wrote:
> As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text only 
> e-mail without wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).
> Any suggestions about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
> Thunderbird?? Telnet??

TkRat can be quite conveniently toggled back and forth between
non-wrapping and wrapping editor mode.
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-=-==- =--= -=---
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  8:24 ` Jesper Juhl
@ 2006-09-08 10:29   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2006-09-08 12:54   ` Hans-Peter Jansen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2006-09-08 10:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jesper Juhl; +Cc: Victor Hugo, linux-kernel

On Friday, 8 September 2006 10:24, Jesper Juhl wrote:
> On 08/09/06, Victor Hugo <victor@vhugo.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text only
> > e-mail without
> > wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any suggestions
> > about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
> > Thunderbird?? Telnet??
> >
> I personally use both 'pine' and 'kmail' and they both work perfectly
> for sending patches.

Confirmed.

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  8:31       ` Michal Piotrowski
@ 2006-09-08  9:05         ` Jan Engelhardt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2006-09-08  9:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michal Piotrowski; +Cc: Victor Hugo, linux-kernel


>> you might even be able to use bash
>> itself! It is not very friendly though, esp. when it comes to attachments
>> or
>> MIME encoding.
>
> LOL :)
>
> Bash is a very universal tool - something like EmacsOS.

Except that it is not as bloated as emacs.

cat </dev/tcp/kernel.org/finger
echo -en "EHLO y\nMAIL FROM: a@b.com\nRCPT TO: d@e.com\n..."  \
	>/dev/tcp/mailer.localdomain/25


Jan Engelhardt
-- 

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  0:02 Victor Hugo
  2006-09-08  7:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
  2006-09-08  8:24 ` Jesper Juhl
@ 2006-09-08  8:47 ` Paolo Ornati
  2006-09-08 10:54 ` Stefan Richter
  2006-09-08 14:53 ` Brice Goglin
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Ornati @ 2006-09-08  8:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Victor Hugo; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:02:03 -0700
Victor Hugo <victor@vhugo.net> wrote:

> As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text only 
> e-mail without
> wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any suggestions 
> about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
> Thunderbird?? Telnet??

Sylpheed / Sylpheed-Claws

I don't remember every version but with Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 you can
configure it to wrap (or not):

- typed text
- quoted text
- pasted text

(Configuration -> Prefereces -> Compose -> Wrapping)

Moreover you have the "Insert File" button that inserts a file
"inline" (for wrapping it follows the "pasted text" rule).


Other useful things you can set are:
	outgoing encodig (I use ISO-8859-15)
	trensfer encoding (I use 8bit)

NOTE: if he can he falls back to US-ASCII / 7bit

-- 
	Paolo Ornati
	Linux 2.6.18-rc6 on x86_64

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  8:17     ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2006-09-08  8:31       ` Michal Piotrowski
  2006-09-08  9:05         ` Jan Engelhardt
  2006-09-08 22:54       ` Pavel Machek
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Michal Piotrowski @ 2006-09-08  8:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Engelhardt; +Cc: Victor Hugo, linux-kernel

On 08/09/06, Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de> wrote:
> you might even be able to use bash
> itself! It is not very friendly though, esp. when it comes to attachments or
> MIME encoding.

LOL :)

Bash is a very universal tool - something like EmacsOS.

>
>
>
> Jan Engelhardt
> --
>

Regards,
Michal

-- 
Michal K. K. Piotrowski
LTG - Linux Testers Group
(http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/ltg/)

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  0:02 Victor Hugo
  2006-09-08  7:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2006-09-08  8:24 ` Jesper Juhl
  2006-09-08 10:29   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2006-09-08 12:54   ` Hans-Peter Jansen
  2006-09-08  8:47 ` Paolo Ornati
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Jesper Juhl @ 2006-09-08  8:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Victor Hugo; +Cc: linux-kernel

On 08/09/06, Victor Hugo <victor@vhugo.net> wrote:
>
>
> As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text only
> e-mail without
> wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any suggestions
> about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
> Thunderbird?? Telnet??
>
I personally use both 'pine' and 'kmail' and they both work perfectly
for sending patches.

-- 
Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>
Don't top-post  http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html
Plain text mails only, please      http://www.expita.com/nomime.html

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  7:24   ` Michal Piotrowski
@ 2006-09-08  8:17     ` Jan Engelhardt
  2006-09-08  8:31       ` Michal Piotrowski
  2006-09-08 22:54       ` Pavel Machek
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2006-09-08  8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michal Piotrowski; +Cc: Victor Hugo, linux-kernel


>> Telnet is something very different.

Even though all four geometric figures in IQ tests have something in comment
(they're triangular for example), they are different to a certain degree that
one falls apart. Any IQ test has some sort of that.
So, which one does not belong in the group?
( ) pine
( ) mutt
( ) Thunderbird
( ) telnet

That was my point.

> You can send patches using telnet

You can also send patches using netcat, you might even be able to use bash
itself! It is not very friendly though, esp. when it comes to attachments or
MIME encoding.



Jan Engelhardt
-- 

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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  7:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2006-09-08  7:24   ` Michal Piotrowski
  2006-09-08  8:17     ` Jan Engelhardt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Michal Piotrowski @ 2006-09-08  7:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Engelhardt; +Cc: Victor Hugo, linux-kernel

On 08/09/06, Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de> wrote:
> Telnet is something very different.

You can send patches using telnet

"Telnet - SMTP Commands (sending mail using telnet)"
http://www.yuki-onna.co.uk/email/smtp.html

But there are simpler ways to send patches.

> Jan Engelhardt

Regards,
Michal

-- 
Michal K. K. Piotrowski
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* Re: [RFC] e-mail clients
  2006-09-08  0:02 Victor Hugo
@ 2006-09-08  7:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
  2006-09-08  7:24   ` Michal Piotrowski
  2006-09-08  8:24 ` Jesper Juhl
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2006-09-08  7:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Victor Hugo; +Cc: linux-kernel

>
> As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text only e-mail
> without
> wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any suggestions about
> which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??

pine does the job.

> Thunderbird?? Telnet??

Thunderbird is said to not by default, and that you need to set some 
option first.

Telnet is something very different.



Jan Engelhardt
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* [RFC] e-mail clients
@ 2006-09-08  0:02 Victor Hugo
  2006-09-08  7:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
                   ` (4 more replies)
  0 siblings, 5 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Victor Hugo @ 2006-09-08  0:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel



As I've learned--most web-clients have a hard time sending text only 
e-mail without
wrapping every single line (not very good for patches).  Any suggestions 
about which client to use on lkml?? Pine?? Mutt??
Thunderbird?? Telnet??


-Victor Hugo

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2006-09-08  8:31       ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-09-08  9:05         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-08 22:54       ` Pavel Machek
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