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From: Juan Piernas Canovas <piernas@ditec.um.es>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>
Cc: Sorin Faibish <sfaibish@emc.com>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] DualFS: File System with Meta-data and Data Separation
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:31:40 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0702211925570.13823@ditec.inf.um.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070221123753.GA464@lazybastard.org>
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Hi Jörn,
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, [utf-8] Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Wed, 21 February 2007 05:36:22 +0100, Juan Piernas Canovas wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't see how you can guarantee 50% free segments. Can you explain
>>> that bit?
>> It is quite simple. If 50% of your segments are busy, and the other 50%
>> are free, and the file system needs a new segment, the cleaner starts
>> freeing some of busy ones. If the cleaner is unable to free one segment at
>> least, your file system gets "full" (and it returns a nice ENOSPC error).
>> This solution wastes the half of your storage device, but it is
>> deadlock-free. Obviously, there are better approaches.
>
> Ah, ok. It is deadlock free, if the maximal height of your tree is 2.
> It is not 100% deadlock free if the height is 3 or more.
>
> Also, I strongly suspect that your tree is higher than 2. A medium
> sized directory will have data blocks, indirect blocks and the inode
> proper, which gives you a height of 3. Your inodes need to get accessed
> somehow and unless they have fixed positions like in ext2, you need a
> further tree structure of some sorts, so you're more likely looking at a
> height of 5.
>
> With a height of 5, you would need to keep 80% of you metadata free.
> That is starting to get wasteful.
>
> So I suspect that my proposed alternate cleaner mechanism or the even
> better "hole plugging" mechanism proposed in the paper a few posts above
> would be a better path to follow.
I do not understand. Do you mean that if I have 10 segments, 5 busy and 5
free, after cleaning I could need 6 segments? How? Where the extra blocks
come from?
Juan.
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D. Juan Piernas Cánovas
Departamento de Ingeniería y Tecnología de Computadores
Facultad de Informática. Universidad de Murcia
Campus de Espinardo - 30080 Murcia (SPAIN)
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email: piernas@ditec.um.es
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-02-14 21:10 ` sfaibish
2007-02-14 21:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-02-15 18:38 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-15 20:09 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-15 22:59 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-16 9:13 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-16 11:05 ` Benny Amorsen
2007-02-16 23:47 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-17 15:11 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-17 18:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-17 18:36 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-17 20:47 ` Sorin Faibish
2007-02-18 5:59 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-18 12:46 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-19 23:57 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-20 0:10 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-02-20 0:30 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-21 4:36 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-21 12:37 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-21 18:31 ` Juan Piernas Canovas [this message]
2007-02-21 19:25 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-22 4:30 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-22 16:25 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-22 19:57 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-23 13:26 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-24 22:35 ` Sorin Faibish
2007-02-25 2:41 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-25 12:01 ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-26 3:48 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-20 20:43 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-15 20:38 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-15 19:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-02-16 1:43 ` sfaibish
2007-02-15 21:09 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-15 23:57 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 4:57 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-26 11:49 ` Yakov Lerner
2007-02-26 13:08 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2007-02-26 13:24 ` Sorin Faibish
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