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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@hpl.hp.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bug in kernel 2.6.21-rc1-git1: conventional floppy drive cannot be mounted without hanging up the whole system
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:14:07 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0702261308490.12485@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45E3493C.1040706@gmail.com>



On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Rene Herman wrote:
> 
> Other than these two, ECP parallel ports are the other remaining users.
> Now, even though on a machine that still has a parallel port it might usually
> indeed be set to ECP in its BIOS; having anything attached to the port also
> use it as such seems quite seldom.

Well, if it's some kind of cache coherency problem (the same way much more 
modern CPU's have cache coherency issues with DMA during C3 sleep), then 
it's entirely possible that the normal ECP parallel port behaviour would 
never show it, since most people tend to use it for output only (yeah, I 
realize you can use it bidirectionally, but at least on old hardware it 
tends to be "talk AT printer" rather than "talk WITH printer".

I frankly forget what hardware platforms had problems with the DMA thing, 
and what the exact behaviour even was (I think there was some possibility 
of corrupt data on the floppy). We also used to have the "nohlt" flag to 
turn off hlt entirely, and that was due to some other legacy issues, iirc.

I seriously doubt we will ever see anybody who has this problem ever 
again, but on the other hand, I also seriously doubt that most modern 
machines even *have* a floppy drive any more, so I'd rather not even 
change it. It's just not worth even a miniscule risk..

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-26 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-26 18:06 Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-26 18:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-26 20:55   ` Rene Herman
2007-02-26 21:14     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-02-28  2:42       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-28 13:04         ` Alan
2007-02-28 12:20           ` Rene Herman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-02-25 18:29 Uwe Bugla
2007-02-25 21:04 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-02-26  3:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-02-24 17:54 Uwe Bugla
2007-02-24 18:07 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-24 18:29   ` Uwe Bugla
2007-02-24 19:23   ` Uwe Bugla
2007-02-24 19:49     ` Ray Lee
2007-02-26 10:38 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-02-26 15:12   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-02-26 15:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-26 16:28       ` Jiri Slaby
2007-02-26 16:34       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-26 17:10         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-26 17:45           ` Stephane Eranian
2007-02-26 17:28       ` Stephane Eranian
2007-02-26 17:37         ` Linus Torvalds

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