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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/6] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:34:16 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801291622510.28027@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080129234353.GZ7233@v2.random>
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > A user space spinlock plays into this??? That is irrelevant to the kernel.
> > And we are discussing "your" placement of the invalidate_range not mine.
>
> With "my" code, invalidate_range wasn't placed there at all, my
> modification to ptep_clear_flush already covered it in a automatic
> way, grep from the word fremap in my latest patch you won't find it,
> like you won't find any change to do_wp_page. Not sure why you keep
> thinking I added those invalidate_range when infact you did.
Well you moved the code at minimum. Hmmm... according
http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=120114755620891&w=2 it was Robin.
> The user space spinlock plays also in declaring rdtscp unworkable to
> provide a monotone vgettimeofday w/o kernel locking.
No idea what you are talking about.
> My patch by calling invalidate_page inside ptep_clear_flush guaranteed
> that both the thread writing through sptes and the thread writing
> through linux ptes, couldn't possibly simultaneously write to two
> different physical pages.
But then the ptep_clear_flush will issue invalidate_page() for ranges
that were already covered by invalidate_range(). There are multiple calls
to clear the same spte.
>
> Your patch allows the thread writing through linux-pte to write to a
> new populated page while the old thread writing through sptes still
> writes to the old page. Is that safe? I don't know for sure. The fact
> the physical page backing the virtual address could change back and
> forth, perhaps invalidates the theory that somebody could possibly do
> some useful locking out of it relaying on all threads seeing the same
> physical page at the same time.
This is referrring to the remap issue not do_wp_page right?
> Actually above I was describing remap_file_pages not do_wp_page.
Ok.
The serialization of remap_file_pages does not seem that critical since we
only take a read lock on mmap_sem here. There may already be concurrent
access to pages from other processors while the ptes are remapped. So
there is already some overlap.
We could take mmap_sem there writably and keep it writably for the case
that we have an mmu notifier in the mm.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-30 0:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-28 20:28 [patch 0/6] [RFC] MMU Notifiers V2 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 1/6] mmu_notifier: Core code Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 22:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 0:05 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-29 1:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 13:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 14:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 19:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 20:41 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-29 16:07 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-05 18:05 ` Andy Whitcroft
2008-02-05 18:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-05 18:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 2/6] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 16:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 18:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 20:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 21:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 21:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 22:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 22:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 23:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 0:34 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2008-01-29 19:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 21:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 21:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 22:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 22:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 0:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 0:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 0:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 0:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 8:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-30 0:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 0:28 ` Jack Steiner
2008-01-30 0:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 13:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 14:43 ` Jack Steiner
2008-01-30 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 20:29 ` Jack Steiner
2008-01-30 20:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 16:11 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-30 17:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 17:30 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-30 18:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 19:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 22:18 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-30 23:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 0:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 0:34 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 1:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 2:34 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-31 2:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 2:56 ` [kvm-devel] mmu_notifier: invalidate_range_start with lock=1 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 10:52 ` [kvm-devel] [patch 2/6] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 2:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 2:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 2:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 13:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 19:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 3/6] mmu_notifier: invalidate_page callbacks for subsystems with rmap Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 16:28 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 4/6] MMU notifier: invalidate_page callbacks using Linux rmaps Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 14:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 14:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 19:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 5/6] mmu_notifier: Callbacks for xip_filemap.c Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 6/6] mmu_notifier: Add invalidate_all() Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 16:31 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-29 20:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 2:29 [patch 0/6] [RFC] MMU Notifiers V3 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 2:29 ` [patch 2/6] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Christoph Lameter
2008-02-08 22:06 [patch 0/6] MMU Notifiers V6 Christoph Lameter
2008-02-08 22:06 ` [patch 2/6] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Christoph Lameter
2008-02-15 6:48 [patch 0/6] MMU Notifiers V7 Christoph Lameter
2008-02-15 6:49 ` [patch 2/6] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Christoph Lameter
2008-02-16 3:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-16 19:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-19 8:54 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 13:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-27 22:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-27 23:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-19 23:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-20 1:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 3:00 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-20 3:11 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-20 3:19 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-27 22:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 0:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-27 22:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-27 22:42 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-28 0:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 0:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 0:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 0:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 1:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 1:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 18:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 0:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 0:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 13:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 19:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 20:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 21:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 21:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 21:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 21:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 21:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 22:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 22:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 10:53 ` Robin Holt
2008-03-03 5:11 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 19:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 19:50 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-04 18:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-05 0:52 ` Nick Piggin
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