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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: bristot@redhat.com, bsegall@google.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	greg@kroah.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, joshdon@google.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk, mgorman@suse.de, mingo@kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, valentin.schneider@arm.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG sysctl to debugfs
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 11:25:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YIkp/6/NDL7KsvpY@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cf2a6c6c-21ea-df7b-94d1-940a344b8d26@de.ibm.com>

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 10:54:37AM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> 
> 
> On 28.04.21 10:46, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 04:59:25PM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> > > Peter,
> > > 
> > > I just realized that we moved away sysctl tunabled to debugfs in next.
> > > We have seen several cases where it was benefitial to set
> > > sched_migration_cost_ns to a lower value. For example with KVM I can
> > > easily get 50% more transactions with 50000 instead of 500000.
> > > Until now it was possible to use tuned or /etc/sysctl.conf to set
> > > these things permanently.
> > > 
> > > Given that some people do not want to have debugfs mounted all the time
> > > I would consider this a regression. The sysctl tunable was always
> > > available.
> > > 
> > > I am ok with the "informational" things being in debugfs, but not
> > > the tunables. So how do we proceed here?
> > 
> > It's all SCHED_DEBUG; IOW you're relying on DEBUG infrastructure for
> > production performance, and that's your fail.
> 
> No its not. sched_migration_cost_ns was NEVER protected by CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG.
> It was available on all kernels with CONFIG_SMP.

The relevant section from origin/master:kernel/sysctl.c:

#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG
	{
		.procname	= "sched_min_granularity_ns",
		.data		= &sysctl_sched_min_granularity,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= sched_proc_update_handler,
		.extra1		= &min_sched_granularity_ns,
		.extra2		= &max_sched_granularity_ns,
	},
	{
		.procname	= "sched_latency_ns",
		.data		= &sysctl_sched_latency,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= sched_proc_update_handler,
		.extra1		= &min_sched_granularity_ns,
		.extra2		= &max_sched_granularity_ns,
	},
	{
		.procname	= "sched_wakeup_granularity_ns",
		.data		= &sysctl_sched_wakeup_granularity,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= sched_proc_update_handler,
		.extra1		= &min_wakeup_granularity_ns,
		.extra2		= &max_wakeup_granularity_ns,
	},
#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
	{
		.procname	= "sched_tunable_scaling",
		.data		= &sysctl_sched_tunable_scaling,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(enum sched_tunable_scaling),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= sched_proc_update_handler,
		.extra1		= &min_sched_tunable_scaling,
		.extra2		= &max_sched_tunable_scaling,
	},
	{
		.procname	= "sched_migration_cost_ns",
		.data		= &sysctl_sched_migration_cost,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec,
	},
	{
		.procname	= "sched_nr_migrate",
		.data		= &sysctl_sched_nr_migrate,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec,
	},
#ifdef CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS
	{
		.procname	= "sched_schedstats",
		.data		= NULL,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= sysctl_schedstats,
		.extra1		= SYSCTL_ZERO,
		.extra2		= SYSCTL_ONE,
	},
#endif /* CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS */
#endif /* CONFIG_SMP */
#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING
	{
		.procname	= "numa_balancing_scan_delay_ms",
		.data		= &sysctl_numa_balancing_scan_delay,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec,
	},
	{
		.procname	= "numa_balancing_scan_period_min_ms",
		.data		= &sysctl_numa_balancing_scan_period_min,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec,
	},
	{
		.procname	= "numa_balancing_scan_period_max_ms",
		.data		= &sysctl_numa_balancing_scan_period_max,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec,
	},
	{
		.procname	= "numa_balancing_scan_size_mb",
		.data		= &sysctl_numa_balancing_scan_size,
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
		.extra1		= SYSCTL_ONE,
	},
	{
		.procname	= "numa_balancing",
		.data		= NULL, /* filled in by handler */
		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned int),
		.mode		= 0644,
		.proc_handler	= sysctl_numa_balancing,
		.extra1		= SYSCTL_ZERO,
		.extra2		= SYSCTL_ONE,
	},
#endif /* CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING */
#endif /* CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG */

How is migration_cost not under SCHED_DEBUG? The bigger problem is that
world+dog has SCHED_DEBUG=y in their .config.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-28  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-12 10:14 [PATCH v2 0/9] sched: Clean up SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] sched/numa: Allow runtime enabling/disabling of NUMA balance without SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] sched: Remove sched_schedstats sysctl out from under SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] sched: Dont make LATENCYTOP select SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] sched: Don't " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG sysctl to debugfs Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15 16:29   ` [PATCH] sched/debug: Rename the sched_debug parameter to sched_debug_verbose Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-19 19:26     ` Josh Don
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG sysctl to debugfs tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-27 14:59   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-27 15:09     ` Steven Rostedt
2021-04-27 15:17       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  8:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28  8:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28  8:54       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  8:58         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  9:25         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-04-28  9:31           ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  9:42       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28 12:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28 14:49           ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-07 12:34           ` [PATCH 0/1] Improve yield (was: sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG sysctl to debugfs) Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-07 12:34             ` [PATCH 1/1] sched/fair: improve yield_to vs fairness Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-07 18:07               ` kernel test robot
2021-07-23  9:35               ` Mel Gorman
2021-07-23 12:36                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-23 16:21                   ` Mel Gorman
2021-07-26 18:41                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-26 19:32                       ` Mel Gorman
2021-07-27  6:59                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-27 18:57                       ` Benjamin Segall
2021-07-28 16:23                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-08-10  8:49                           ` Vincent Guittot
2021-07-27 13:29                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 13:33                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 14:31                   ` Mel Gorman
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] sched,preempt: Move preempt_dynamic to debug.c Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] debugfs: Implement debugfs_create_str() Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] sched,debug: Convert sysctl sched_domains to debugfs Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13 14:55   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-04-15  9:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15 12:16       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2021-04-15 12:34       ` Valentin Schneider
2021-04-15 13:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] sched: Move /proc/sched_debug " Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] sched,fair: Alternative sched_slice() Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra

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