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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
ying.huang@intel.com, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/5] mm/mempolicy: Add MPOL_PREFERRED_MANY for multiple preferred nodes
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 15:28:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YQ047Gcakj2scjNK@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1627970362-61305-2-git-send-email-feng.tang@intel.com>
On Tue 03-08-21 13:59:18, Feng Tang wrote:
> From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
>
> The NUMA APIs currently allow passing in a "preferred node" as a
> single bit set in a nodemask. If more than one bit it set, bits
> after the first are ignored.
>
> This single node is generally OK for location-based NUMA where
> memory being allocated will eventually be operated on by a single
> CPU. However, in systems with multiple memory types, folks want
> to target a *type* of memory instead of a location. For instance,
> someone might want some high-bandwidth memory but do not care about
> the CPU next to which it is allocated. Or, they want a cheap,
> high capacity allocation and want to target all NUMA nodes which
> have persistent memory in volatile mode. In both of these cases,
> the application wants to target a *set* of nodes, but does not
> want strict MPOL_BIND behavior as that could lead to OOM killer or
> SIGSEGV.
>
> So add MPOL_PREFERRED_MANY policy to support the multiple preferred
> nodes requirement. This is not a pie-in-the-sky dream for an API.
> This was a response to a specific ask of more than one group at Intel.
> Specifically:
>
> 1. There are existing libraries that target memory types such as
> https://github.com/memkind/memkind. These are known to suffer
> from SIGSEGV's when memory is low on targeted memory "kinds" that
> span more than one node. The MCDRAM on a Xeon Phi in "Cluster on
> Die" mode is an example of this.
> 2. Volatile-use persistent memory users want to have a memory policy
> which is targeted at either "cheap and slow" (PMEM) or "expensive and
> fast" (DRAM). However, they do not want to experience allocation
> failures when the targeted type is unavailable.
> 3. Allocate-then-run. Generally, we let the process scheduler decide
> on which physical CPU to run a task. That location provides a
> default allocation policy, and memory availability is not generally
> considered when placing tasks. For situations where memory is
> valuable and constrained, some users want to allocate memory first,
> *then* allocate close compute resources to the allocation. This is
> the reverse of the normal (CPU) model. Accelerators such as GPUs
> that operate on core-mm-managed memory are interested in this model.
>
> A check is added in sanitize_mpol_flags() to not permit 'prefer_many'
> policy to be used for now, and will be removed in later patch after all
> implementations for 'prefer_many' are ready, as suggested by Michal Hocko.
>
> [Michal Hocko: suggest to refine policy_node/policy_nodemask handling]
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20200630212517.308045-4-ben.widawsky@intel.com
> Co-developed-by: Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>
Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Thanks!
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-06 13:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-03 5:59 [PATCH v7 0/5] Introduce multi-preference mempolicy Feng Tang
2021-08-03 5:59 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] mm/mempolicy: Add MPOL_PREFERRED_MANY for multiple preferred nodes Feng Tang
2021-08-06 13:27 ` Michal Hocko
2021-08-06 13:28 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-08-03 5:59 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] mm/memplicy: add page allocation function for MPOL_PREFERRED_MANY policy Feng Tang
2021-08-06 13:29 ` Michal Hocko
2021-08-03 5:59 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] mm/hugetlb: add support for mempolicy MPOL_PREFERRED_MANY Feng Tang
2021-08-06 13:35 ` Michal Hocko
2021-08-09 2:44 ` Feng Tang
2021-08-09 8:41 ` Michal Hocko
2021-08-09 12:37 ` Feng Tang
2021-08-09 13:19 ` Michal Hocko
2021-08-10 8:50 ` Feng Tang
2021-08-10 21:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2021-08-11 1:37 ` Feng Tang
2021-08-10 20:06 ` [PATCH] mm/hugetlb: Initialize page to NULL in alloc_buddy_huge_page_with_mpol() Nathan Chancellor
2021-08-11 1:21 ` Feng Tang
2021-08-03 5:59 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] mm/mempolicy: Advertise new MPOL_PREFERRED_MANY Feng Tang
2021-08-03 5:59 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] mm/mempolicy: unify the create() func for bind/interleave/prefer-many policies Feng Tang
2021-12-01 3:09 ` [PATCH v7 0/5] Introduce multi-preference mempolicy Gang Li
2021-12-01 5:33 ` Feng Tang
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