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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Struct page proposal
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:14:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YVImDtfdgo+RXBe+@moria.home.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <751358b2-aec2-43a3-cbbe-1f8c4469b6d3@suse.cz>

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 09:07:21PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 9/27/2021 8:09 PM, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 07:05:26PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> >> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 07:48:15PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >>> Won't be easy to cram all that into two unsigned long's, or even a single
> >>> one. We should avoid storing anything in the free page itself. Allocating
> >>> some external structures to track free pages is going to have funny
> >>> bootstrap problems. Probably a major redesign would be needed...
> >>
> >> Wait, why do we want to avoid using the memory that we're allocating?
> > 
> > The issue is where to stick the state for free pages. If that doesn't fit in two
> > ulongs, then we'd need a separate allocation, which means slab needs to be up
> > and running before free pages are initialized.
> 
> So that's what I meant by the funny bootstrap problems - slab allocates pages
> from the buddy allocator. And well, not just bootstrap, imagine free memory
> becomes low, we need to reclaim pages, and in order to turn full pages to free
> buddy pages we need to allocate these slab structures, and the slab is full too
> and needs to allocate more backing pages...
> 
> By "major redesign" I meant e.g. something along - bitmaps of free pages per
> each order? (instead of the free lists) Hm but I guess no, the worst case times
> searching for free pages would just suck...

We can have arrays of pointers to free pages - then within struct page we'd keep
the index of that page in the freelist array. To take a page off the middle of
the freelist we'd just swap it with the one at the end. And instead of using a
literal array, we'd want to use a simple radix tree.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-27 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-23  1:21 Struct page proposal Kent Overstreet
2021-09-23  3:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-09-23  5:15   ` Kent Overstreet
2021-09-23 11:40     ` Mapcount of subpages Matthew Wilcox
2021-09-23 12:45       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-09-23 21:10         ` Hugh Dickins
2021-09-23 21:54           ` Yang Shi
2021-09-23 22:23             ` Zi Yan
2021-09-23 23:48               ` Hugh Dickins
2021-09-24  0:25                 ` Zi Yan
2021-09-24  0:57                   ` Hugh Dickins
2021-09-24  1:11                 ` Yang Shi
2021-09-24  1:31                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-09-24  3:26                     ` Yang Shi
2021-09-24 23:05           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-09-23 18:56       ` Mike Kravetz
2021-09-23  9:03 ` Struct page proposal David Hildenbrand
2021-09-23 15:22   ` Kent Overstreet
2021-09-23 15:34     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-09-27 17:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-09-27 17:53   ` Kent Overstreet
2021-09-27 18:34     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-27 20:45       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-09-27 18:05   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-09-27 18:09     ` Kent Overstreet
2021-09-27 18:12       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-09-27 18:16         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-09-27 18:53           ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-09-27 19:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-27 18:16         ` Kent Overstreet
2021-09-28  3:19           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-09-27 19:07       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-09-27 20:14         ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2021-09-28 11:21         ` David Laight
2021-09-27 18:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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