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From: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
To: Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, "Ivan T. Ivanov" <iivanov@suse.de>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] random: fix crash on multiple early calls to add_bootloader_randomness()
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 08:14:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ya8J084926PUC4l4@owl.dominikbrodowski.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJMQK-g8J8VCthoe5c9TWozycufhgWQQshRpEnHRo=y5A3m74g@mail.gmail.com>

Am Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 03:09:21PM +0800 schrieb Hsin-Yi Wang:
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 4:58 AM Dominik Brodowski
> <linux@dominikbrodowski.net> wrote:
> >
> > Am Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 01:42:01PM +0800 schrieb Hsin-Yi Wang:
> > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 3:59 PM Dominik Brodowski
> > > <linux@dominikbrodowski.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jason,
> > > >
> > > > Am Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 11:55:10AM -0500 schrieb Jason A. Donenfeld:
> > > > > Thanks for the patch. One trivial nit and one question:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your review!
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 6:35 AM Dominik Brodowski
> > > > > <linux@dominikbrodowski.net> wrote:
> > > > > > +       /* We cannot do much with the input pool until it is set up in
> > > > > > +        * rand_initalize(); therefore just mix into the crng state.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you meant "rand_initialize()" here (missing 'i').
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, sorry about that.
> > > >
> > > > > > If the added entropy suffices to increase crng_init to 1, future calls
> > > > > > to add_bootloader_randomness() or add_hwgenerator_randomness() used to
> > > > > > progress to credit_entropy_bits(). However, if the input pool is not yet
> > > > > > properly set up, the cmpxchg call within that function can lead to an
> > > > > > infinite recursion.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see what this patch does with crng_global_init_time, and that seems
> > > > > probably sensible, but I didn't understand this part of the reasoning
> > > > > in the commit message; I might just be a bit slow here. Where's the
> > > > > recursion exactly? Or even an infinite loop?
> > > >
> > > > On arm64, it was actually a NULL pointer dereference reported by Ivan T.
> > > > Ivanov; see
> > > >
> > > >         https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20211012082708.121931-1-iivanov@suse.de/
> > > >
> > > > Trying to reproduce this rather bluntly on x86/qemu by multiple manual calls
> > > > to add_bootloader_randomness(), I mis-interpreted the symptoms to point to an
> > > > infinite recursion. The real problem seems to be that crng_reseed() isn't
> > > > ready to be called too early in the boot process, in particular before
> > > > workqueues are ready (see the call to numa_crng_init()).
> > > >
> > > > However, there seem be additional issues with add_bootloader_randomness()
> > > > not yet addressed (or worsened) by my patch:
> > > >
> > > >         - If CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_BOOTLOADER is enabled and crng_init==0,
> > > >           add_hwgenerator_randomness() calls crng_fast_load() and returns
> > > >           immediately. If it is disabled and crng_init==0,
> > > >           add_device_randnomness() calls crng_slow_load() but still
> > > >           continues to call _mix_pool_bytes(). That means the seed is
> > > >           used more extensively if CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_BOOTLOADER is not
> > > >           set!
> > > If called by the crng_slow_load(), it's mixed into the pool but we're
> > > not trusting it. But in crng_fast_load() we're using it to init crng.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >         - If CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_BOOTLOADER is enabled and crng_init==0,
> > > >           the entropy is not credited -- same as if
> > > >           CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_BOOTLOADER is not set. Only subsequent calls
> > >
> > > In crng_fast_load(), the seed would be mixed to primary_crng.state[4],
> >
> > Actually, that is also the case for crng_slow_load() (see dest_buf there).
> >
> Right, but the difference is if we want to credit(trust) that for crng init.

... which is, unfortunately, not the only difference between slow and
fast...

> > > and then crng_init will be 1 if the added seed is enough.
> > > rng-seed in dt (called in early_init_dt_scan_chosen()) also needs to
> > > use this function to init crng.
> >
> > Indeed, crng_init should be set to 1 in that case.
> >
> > > With the patch, we're seeing
> > > [    0.000000] random: get_random_u64 called from
> > > __kmem_cache_create+0x34/0x270 with crng_init=0
> > >
> > > While before it should be
> > > [    0.000000] random: get_random_u64 called from
> > > __kmem_cache_create+0x34/0x280 with crng_init=1
> > >
> > > >           to add_bootloader_randomness() would credit entropy, but that
> > > >           causes the issue NULL pointer dereference or the hang...
> > > >
> > > >         - As crng_fast_load() returns early, that actually means that my
> > > >           patch causes the additional entropy submitted to
> > > >           add_hwgenerator_randomness() by subsequent calls to be completely
> > > >           lost.
> > > Only when crng_init==0, if crng is initialized, it would continue with
> > > credit_entropy_bits().
> >
> > However, if workqueues are not up and running (yet), it will fail.
> >
> > New draft below!
> 
> Thanks, the new draft now takes care of the crng init.
> [    0.000000] random: get_random_u64 called from
> __kmem_cache_create+0x34/0x270 with crng_init=1

Thanks for testing!

> > ---
> >
> > Currently, if CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_BOOTLOADER is enabled, mutliple calls
> > to add_bootloader_randomness() are broken and can cause a NULL pointer
> > dereference, as noted by Ivan T. Ivanov. This is not only a hypothetical
> > problem, as qemu on arm64 may provide bootloader entropy via EFI and via
> > devicetree.
> >
> > On the first call to add_hwgenerator_randomness(), crng_fast_load() is
> > executed, and if the seed is long enough, crng_init will be set to 1.
> > However, no entropy is currently credited for that, even though the
> > name and description of CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_BOOTLOADER states otherwise.
> >
> > On subsequent calls to add_bootloader_randomness() and then to
> > add_hwgenerator_randomness(), crng_fast_load() will be skipped. Instead,
> > wait_event_interruptible() (which makes no sense for the init process)
> > and then credit_entropy_bits() will be called. If the entropy count for
> > that second seed is large enough, that proceeds to crng_reseed().
> > However, crng_reseed() may depend on workqueues being available, which
> > is not the case early during boot.
> >
> > To fix these issues, explicitly call crng_fast_load() or crng_slow_load()
> > depending on whether the bootloader is trusted -- only in the first
> > instance, crng_init may progress to 1. Also, mix the seed into the
> > input pool unconditionally, and credit the entropy for that iff
> > CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_BOOTLOADER is set. However, avoid a call to
> > crng_reseed() too early during boot. It is safe to be called after
> > rand_initialize(), so use crng_global_init_time (which is set to != 0
> > in that function) to determine which branch to take.
> >
> > Reported-by: Ivan T. Ivanov <iivanov@suse.de>
> > Fixes: 18b915ac6b0a ("efi/random: Treat EFI_RNG_PROTOCOL output as bootloader randomness")
> > Signed-off-by: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/char/random.c b/drivers/char/random.c
> > index 605969ed0f96..abe4571fd2c0 100644
> > --- a/drivers/char/random.c
> > +++ b/drivers/char/random.c
> > @@ -722,7 +722,8 @@ static void credit_entropy_bits(struct entropy_store *r, int nbits)
> >         if (r == &input_pool) {
> >                 int entropy_bits = entropy_count >> ENTROPY_SHIFT;
> >
> > -               if (crng_init < 2 && entropy_bits >= 128)
> > +               if (crng_init < 2 && entropy_bits >= 128 &&
> > +                   crng_global_init_time > 0)
> >                         crng_reseed(&primary_crng, r);
> >         }
> >  }
> > @@ -1763,8 +1764,8 @@ static void __init init_std_data(struct entropy_store *r)
> >  }
> >
> >  /*
> > - * Note that setup_arch() may call add_device_randomness()
> > - * long before we get here. This allows seeding of the pools
> > + * add_device_randomness() or add_bootloader_randomness() may be
> > + * called long before we get here. This allows seeding of the pools
> >   * with some platform dependent data very early in the boot
> >   * process. But it limits our options here. We must use
> >   * statically allocated structures that already have all
> > @@ -2291,15 +2292,29 @@ void add_hwgenerator_randomness(const char *buffer, size_t count,
> >  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(add_hwgenerator_randomness);
> >
> >  /* Handle random seed passed by bootloader.
> > - * If the seed is trustworthy, it would be regarded as hardware RNGs. Otherwise
> > - * it would be regarded as device data.
> > + * If the seed is trustworthy, its entropy will be credited.
> >   * The decision is controlled by CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_BOOTLOADER.
> >   */
> >  void add_bootloader_randomness(const void *buf, unsigned int size)
> >  {
> > -       if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_BOOTLOADER))
> > -               add_hwgenerator_randomness(buf, size, size * 8);
> > -       else
> > -               add_device_randomness(buf, size);
> > +       unsigned long time = random_get_entropy() ^ jiffies;
> > +       unsigned long flags;
> > +
> > +       if (!crng_ready() && size) {
> size is checked here but not below?

credit_entropy_bits() returns early if bits==0.

Thanks,
	Dominik

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-07  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-12  8:27 [PATCH] Revert "efi/random: Treat EFI_RNG_PROTOCOL output as bootloader randomness" Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-12  8:40 ` Dominik Brodowski
2021-10-13  7:30   ` [RESEND] " Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-13  7:50     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-13  8:05       ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-13  9:51       ` [RESEND] " Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-13  9:53         ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-13 13:23           ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-10-31  6:30   ` [PATCH] random: fix crash on multiple early calls to add_bootloader_randomness() Dominik Brodowski
2021-10-31 12:33     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-03  7:14       ` Dominik Brodowski
2021-11-03  7:27         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-05  6:04           ` Dominik Brodowski
2021-11-03  7:17   ` [PATCH v2] " Dominik Brodowski
2021-11-05  6:04   ` [PATCH v3] " Dominik Brodowski
2021-11-24 12:32     ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-12-02 11:35   ` [PATCH v3, resend] " Dominik Brodowski
2021-12-02 16:55     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-03  7:58       ` [PATCH v4] " Dominik Brodowski
2021-12-03 15:39         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-03 16:47           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-03 17:01             ` Dominik Brodowski
2021-12-06  8:14           ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-12-30 18:05             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-04 15:06               ` Ivan T. Ivanov
2021-12-06  5:42         ` Hsin-Yi Wang
2021-12-06 20:57           ` [PATCH v5] " Dominik Brodowski
2021-12-07  7:09             ` Hsin-Yi Wang
2021-12-07  7:14               ` Dominik Brodowski [this message]
2021-12-07 17:22             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-20 14:48               ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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