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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Cc: jpoimboe@redhat.com, jikos@kernel.org, joe.lawrence@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] selftests/livepatch: Test of the API for specifying functions to search for on a stack
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 15:06:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YaDp/uVdBuIAIs71@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.21.2111261010010.6268@pobox.suse.cz>

On Fri 2021-11-26 10:20:54, Miroslav Benes wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2021, Petr Mladek wrote:
> 
> > On Fri 2021-11-19 10:03:27, Miroslav Benes wrote:
> > > Add a test for the API which allows the user to specify functions which
> > > are then searched for on any tasks's stack during a transition process.
> > > 
> > The approach with debugfs is an interesting trick. Though, I slightly
> > prefer using the scheduled work. The workqueue API looks less tricky
> > to me than sysfs/debugfs API. Also it does not block the module
> > in the init() callback[*]. But I might be biased.
> 
> It seemed to me that debugfs gave us more control over the process than 
> workqueues, but I do not really care. Could you explain the blocking in 
> the init callback? I do not follow.

Good question about the blocking! Please, forget it. I am not sure
why I thought that the module might get blocked in the module_init()
script.


> > Anyway, it might make sense to use the same trick in both situations.
> > It would make it easier to maintain the test modules.
> 
> True. So I will rewrite it to workqueues as you are proposing below.
> 
> > [*] There is actually a race in the workqueue approach. The module
> > init() callback should wait until the work is really scheduled
> > and sleeping. It might be achieved by similar hand-shake like
> > with @block_transition variable. Or completion API might be
> > even more elegant.
> > 
> > 
> > > +	pr_info("%s exit\n", __func__);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static noinline void child2_function(void)
> > > +{
> > > +	pr_info("%s\n", __func__);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static noinline void parent_function(void)
> > > +{
> > > +	pr_info("%s enter\n", __func__);
> > > +	child_function();
> > > +	child2_function();
> > 
> > This would deserve some explanation what we try to simulate here
> > and how it is achieved. It is not easy for me even with the background
> > that I have freshly in my mind.
> > 
> > Also I think about more descriptive names ;-)
> 
> Hey, I thought it was self-explaining :). So, yes, I started with the 
> example given in the .fixup thread, but it is not really tied to .cold 
> section, jumps or whatever. The setup is just used to test a new API. 
> Moreover, the .fixup example is just a one scenario the new API tries to 
> solve.

OK, single child() function should be enough for testing the behavior.
We might sleep/wait in the parent().

I think that I was confused by the two child() functions. It looked
like sleeping in a child function was important. And the "same"
name of the two children did not help much to understand and
distinguish the purpose.

> What you propose below, that is function names and comments, is a bit 
> confusing for me. Especially if I did not know anything about the original 
> issue (which will be the case in a couple of weeks when I forget 
> everything).
> 
> So I think it I will stick to brevity unless you or someone else really 
> insist.

No, I do not resist on the complicated exmaple. When thinking about
it, the easier test case the better. It should be enough to describe
the real-life purpose of the API in the patch that introduces the API.

> I can improve tests description in 
> tools/testing/selftests/livepatch/test-func-stack.sh if it helps anything.

Yes, please. I miss some top-level descriptions of the tested
functionality, something like:

# Tests for "bla bla" feature.
# It allows to block transition of a process when it is running
# parent() function and only the child() function is livepatched.

# This test does not use the feature. The transition finishes even
# before parent() exits.

# In this test case, the livepatch is instructed to check also
# parent() on stack. The transition must not finish before
# parent() exists.

It would be nice to have these high-level descriptions even in
the test modules.

Best Regards,
Petr

      reply	other threads:[~2021-11-26 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-19  9:03 [PATCH 0/3] livepatch: Allow user to specify " Miroslav Benes
2021-11-19  9:03 ` [PATCH 1/3] livepatch: Move the initialization of old_func to a new function Miroslav Benes
2021-11-19  9:03 ` [PATCH 2/3] livepatch: Allow user to specify functions to search for on a stack Miroslav Benes
2021-11-19 10:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-19 18:20   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-11-22  7:57     ` Miroslav Benes
2021-11-22 15:53       ` Joe Lawrence
2021-11-25 10:07         ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-25 10:20           ` Miroslav Benes
2021-12-03 16:01             ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-19  9:03 ` [PATCH 3/3] selftests/livepatch: Test of the API for specifying " Miroslav Benes
2021-11-25 14:39   ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-26  9:20     ` Miroslav Benes
2021-11-26 14:06       ` Petr Mladek [this message]

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