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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Yee Lee <yee.lee@mediatek.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nicholas.Tang@mediatek.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] arm64/cpufeature: Optionally disable MTE via command-line
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 16:33:14 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YapGyozjactAm8vp@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e055e71f0ca7bcb351b9097ba8f8f4a9d324623c.camel@mediatek.com>
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 06:19:29PM +0800, Yee Lee wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-08-02 at 16:30 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 10:49:53PM +0800, yee.lee@mediatek.com wrote:
> > > From: Yee Lee <yee.lee@mediatek.com>
> > >
> > > For some low-end devices with limited resources,
> > > MTE needs to be optionally disabled to save system
> > > costs such as tag memory and firmware controls.
> >
> > I understand the cost of using MTE but I don't fully get what you mean
> > by firmware controls. If the ID_AA64PFR1_EL1.MTE reports that MTE is
> > present, the firmware should have initialised MTE correctly (e.g. tag
> > allocation storage, SCR_EL3.ATA) and not rely on a kernel command line
> > argument that may or may not be present.
> >
> > > This allows ID_AA64PFR1_EL1.MTE to be overridden on
> > > its shadow value by giving "arm64.nomte" on cmdline,
> > > and to suppress MTE feature.
> > >
> > > Suggested-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> > > Suggested-by: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Yee Lee <yee.lee@mediatek.com>
> >
> > While this patch appears to disable MTE, I don't think it can fully
> > prevent the access to the allocation tag storage, so the firmware must
> > still initialise it correctly.
> >
> > The issue is that __cpu_setup already configures the MAIR_EL1 register
> > to use Normal Tagged memory for the kernel mapping and SCTLR_EL1.ATA is
> > set. The TCF field is zero, so no tag checking, but I couldn't figure
> > out from the ARM ARM whether this also prevents LDR/STR from attempting
> > to fetch the allocation tags. I think it's only the ATA bit and the MAIR
> > configuration.
> >
> > With this patch, KASAN_HW_TAGS (if configured) won't be used and MTE
> > will not be presented to user applications, if that's what you want, but
> > does not fully disable MTE.
>
> As pointed out earlier, the hardware has been verified that still has
> transaction sending to DRAM due to mair_el1(Normal_tagged) is
> setup. That means the override in this patch would be incompleted and
> cannot achieve to avoid undesired hardware confliction by disabling
> MTE.
>
> Do we have other options to delay the configuration on MAIR_EL1 after
> the override? Or maybe another CONFIG to bypass the init in
> __cpu_setup?
This register is trickier as it may be cached in the TLB (IIRC). I think
deferring the setting of SCTLR_EL1.ATA(0) should be sufficient. Can you
try the diff I sent in the previous email and confirm that the accesses
to the allocation tag storage are blocked?
--
Catalin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-03 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-30 14:49 [PATCH v3 0/1] arm64/cpufeature: Support optionally disable MTE yee.lee
2021-07-30 14:49 ` [PATCH v3 1/1] arm64/cpufeature: Optionally disable MTE via command-line yee.lee
2021-08-02 15:30 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-08-03 5:55 ` Yee Lee
2021-11-25 10:19 ` Yee Lee
2021-12-03 16:33 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2021-12-14 8:19 ` Yee Lee
2021-12-14 12:02 ` Catalin Marinas
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