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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	salikhmetov@gmail.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, jakob@unthought.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu,
	riel@redhat.com, ksm@42.dk, staubach@redhat.com,
	jesper.juhl@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	protasnb@gmail.com, r.e.wolff@bitwizard.nl,
	hidave.darkstar@gmail.com, hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapped files
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:58:04 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801180949040.2957@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1200651958.5920.12.camel@twins>



On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> Bah, and will break on s390... so we'd need a page_mkclean() variant
> that doesn't actually clear dirty.

No, we simply want to not play all these very expensive games with dirty 
in the first place.

Guys, mmap access times aren't important enough for this. It's not 
specified closely enough, and people don't care enough.

Of the patches around so far, the best one by far seems to be the simple 
four-liner from Miklos.

And even in that four-liner, I suspect that the *last* two lines are 
actually incorrect: there's no point in updating the file time when the 
page *becomes* dirty, we should update the file time when it is marked 
clean, and "msync(MS_SYNC)" should update it as part of *that*.

So I think the file time update should be part of just the page writeout 
logic, not by msync() or page faulting itself or anything like that.

		Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-18 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-17 22:31 [PATCH -v6 0/2] Fixing the issue with memory-mapped file times Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-17 22:31 ` [PATCH -v6 1/2] Massive code cleanup of sys_msync() Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-18  9:33   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-18 10:30     ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-17 22:31 ` [PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapped files Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-18  9:51   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-18 10:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-18 10:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-18 10:39         ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-18 17:58         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-01-18 18:11           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-18 18:28             ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-18 18:51               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-18 18:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 18:57               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-18 19:08                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 19:22                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-18 19:35                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 19:58                       ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-18 20:22                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 21:03                           ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-18 21:27                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 22:04                               ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-18 22:21                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 22:35                                   ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-18 22:32                       ` Ingo Oeser
2008-01-18 22:47                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 22:54                           ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-19  0:50                             ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-19  4:25                               ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-19 10:22                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-19 15:49                                 ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-21 14:25                           ` Peter Staubach
2008-01-21 14:36                             ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-18 10:38       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-18 11:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-18 11:17           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-18 11:23             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-18 11:36               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-18  9:40 ` [PATCH -v6 0/2] Fixing the issue with memory-mapped file times Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-18 10:31   ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-18 19:48   ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-19 10:45     ` Miklos Szeredi

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