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From: (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Chuck Ebbert <>
Cc: linux-kernel <>,
	Albert Cahalan <>
Subject: Re: PID entries in /proc sorted by number, not start time in 2.6.19
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:39:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <> (Chuck Ebbert's message of "Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:27:37 -0500")

Chuck Ebbert <> writes:

> Starting with kernel 2.6.19, the process directories in
> /proc are sorted by number. They were sorted by process
> start time in 2.6.18 and earlier. This makes the output
> of procps come out in that order too, pissing off users
> who are used to the old way.
> To reproduce:
> 	1. Wrap your PID numbers.
> 	2. Do ls -fl /proc
> 	3. Look at output of ps command.
> Compare 2.6.18 to 2.6.19.
> See also:

Apologies, but this was a bug fix for a more serious issue.  The code
to report the directory entries by start time was fundamentally broken.
In particular the sequence:

can miss processes that exist for the entire duration of that
sequence.  Which is non-posix, non-intuitive, and has no reasonable
work around.

The sorting by pid happened as a side effect of finding a stable token
we can come back to so we can at least guarantee normal readdir
semantics.  That objects that exist for the entire readdir are
guaranteed to be displayed.  That objects that come into existence or
are deleted during the readdir may be missed.  That isn't perfect but
it is a useable semantic. 


  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-28 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-28 22:27 Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-28 23:39 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-03-01  1:16   ` Albert Cahalan

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