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From: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
To: <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>, <kernel-team@fb.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 00/30] bpf: switch to memcg-based memory accounting
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 15:20:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200821222036.GB2250889@carbon.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200821150134.2581465-1-guro@fb.com>
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 08:01:04AM -0700, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> Currently bpf is using the memlock rlimit for the memory accounting.
> This approach has its downsides and over time has created a significant
> amount of problems:
>
> 1) The limit is per-user, but because most bpf operations are performed
> as root, the limit has a little value.
>
> 2) It's hard to come up with a specific maximum value. Especially because
> the counter is shared with non-bpf users (e.g. memlock() users).
> Any specific value is either too low and creates false failures
> or too high and useless.
>
> 3) Charging is not connected to the actual memory allocation. Bpf code
> should manually calculate the estimated cost and precharge the counter,
> and then take care of uncharging, including all fail paths.
> It adds to the code complexity and makes it easy to leak a charge.
>
> 4) There is no simple way of getting the current value of the counter.
> We've used drgn for it, but it's far from being convenient.
>
> 5) Cryptic -EPERM is returned on exceeding the limit. Libbpf even had
> a function to "explain" this case for users.
>
> In order to overcome these problems let's switch to the memcg-based
> memory accounting of bpf objects. With the recent addition of the percpu
> memory accounting, now it's possible to provide a comprehensive accounting
> of the memory used by bpf programs and maps.
>
> This approach has the following advantages:
> 1) The limit is per-cgroup and hierarchical. It's way more flexible and allows
> a better control over memory usage by different workloads. Of course, it
> requires enabled cgroups and kernel memory accounting and properly configured
> cgroup tree, but it's a default configuration for a modern Linux system.
>
> 2) The actual memory consumption is taken into account. It happens automatically
> on the allocation time if __GFP_ACCOUNT flags is passed. Uncharging is also
> performed automatically on releasing the memory. So the code on the bpf side
> becomes simpler and safer.
>
> 3) There is a simple way to get the current value and statistics.
>
> In general, if a process performs a bpf operation (e.g. creates or updates
> a map), it's memory cgroup is charged. However map updates performed from
> an interrupt context are charged to the memory cgroup which contained
> the process, which created the map.
>
> Providing a 1:1 replacement for the rlimit-based memory accounting is
> a non-goal of this patchset. Users and memory cgroups are completely
> orthogonal, so it's not possible even in theory.
> Memcg-based memory accounting requires a properly configured cgroup tree
> to be actually useful. However, it's the way how the memory is managed
> on a modern Linux system.
>
>
> The patchset consists of the following parts:
> 1) an auxiliary patch by Johanness, which adds an ability to charge
> a custom memory cgroup from an interrupt context
> 2) memcg-based accounting for various bpf objects: progs and maps
> 3) removal of the rlimit-based accounting
> 4) removal of rlimit adjustments in userspace samples
As a note, I've resent the first patch from the series as a standalone
patch to linux-mm@, because a similar change is required by other non-related
patchset. This should avoid further merge conflicts.
I did some renamings in the patch, so v5 of this patchset is expected.
Please, don't merge v4. Feedback is highly appreciated though.
Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-21 22:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-21 15:01 Roman Gushchin
2020-08-21 15:01 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 01/30] mm: support nesting memalloc_use_memcg() Roman Gushchin
2020-08-21 16:29 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-08-21 15:01 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 02/30] bpf: memcg-based memory accounting for bpf progs Roman Gushchin
2020-08-25 19:00 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-08-25 22:26 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-08-21 15:01 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 03/30] bpf: memcg-based memory accounting for bpf maps Roman Gushchin
2020-08-25 23:27 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-08-26 2:38 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-08-26 8:57 ` [bpf] 3ebc0a7f46: BUG:KASAN:use-after-free_in_b kernel test robot
2020-08-21 15:01 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 28/30] bpf: eliminate rlimit-based memory accounting infra for bpf maps Roman Gushchin
2020-08-21 18:23 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-08-21 23:15 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-08-21 22:20 ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
[not found] ` <20200821150134.2581465-5-guro@fb.com>
2020-08-27 1:19 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 04/30] bpf: refine memcg-based memory accounting for arraymap maps Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <20200821150134.2581465-6-guro@fb.com>
2020-08-27 1:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 05/30] bpf: refine memcg-based memory accounting for cpumap maps Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <20200821150134.2581465-7-guro@fb.com>
2020-08-27 1:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 06/30] bpf: memcg-based memory accounting for cgroup storage maps Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <20200821150134.2581465-8-guro@fb.com>
2020-08-27 1:38 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 07/30] bpf: refine memcg-based memory accounting for devmap maps Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <20200821150134.2581465-9-guro@fb.com>
2020-08-28 16:44 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 08/30] bpf: refine memcg-based memory accounting for hashtab maps Shakeel Butt
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