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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"roid@mellanox.com" <roid@mellanox.com>,
	"saeedm@mellanox.com" <saeedm@mellanox.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/3] devlink: Consider other controller while building phys_port_name
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 09:43:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200828094343.6c4ff16a@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BY5PR12MB432271E4F9028831FA75B7E0DC520@BY5PR12MB4322.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 04:27:19 +0000 Parav Pandit wrote:
> > From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 AM
> > 
> > On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:15:01 +0000 Parav Pandit wrote:  
> > > > From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
> > > >
> > > > I find it strange that you have pfnum 0 everywhere but then
> > > > different controllers.  
> > > There are multiple PFs, connected to different PCI RC. So device has
> > > same pfnum for both the PFs.
> > >  
> > > > For MultiHost at Netronome we've used pfnum to distinguish between
> > > > the hosts. ASIC must have some unique identifiers for each PF.  
> > > Yes. there is. It is identified by a unique controller number;
> > > internally it is called host_number. But internal host_number is
> > > misleading term as multiple cables of same physical card can be
> > > plugged into single host. So identifying based on a unique
> > > (controller) number and matching that up on external cable is desired.
> > >  
> > > > I'm not aware of any practical reason for creating PFs on one RC
> > > > without reinitializing all the others.  
> > > I may be misunderstanding, but how is initialization is related
> > > multiple PFs?  
> > 
> > If the number of PFs is static it should be possible to understand which one is on
> > which system.
>
> How? How do we tell that pfnum A means external system.
> Want to avoid such 'implicit' notion.

How do you tell that controller A means external system?

> > > > I can see how having multiple controllers may make things clearer,
> > > > but adding another layer of IDs while the one under it is unused
> > > > (pfnum=0) feels very unnecessary.  
> > > pfnum=0 is used today. not sure I understand your comment about being
> > > unused. Can you please explain?  
> > 
> > You examples only ever have pfnum 0:
> >   
> Because both controllers have pfnum 0.
> 
> > From patch 2:
> > 
> > $ devlink port show pci/0000:00:08.0/2
> > pci/0000:00:08.0/2: type eth netdev eth7 controller 0 flavour pcivf pfnum 0
> > vfnum 1 splittable false
> >   function:
> >     hw_addr 00:00:00:00:00:00
> > 
> > $ devlink port show -jp pci/0000:00:08.0/2 {
> >     "port": {
> >         "pci/0000:00:08.0/1": {
> >             "type": "eth",
> >             "netdev": "eth7",
> >             "controller": 0,
> >             "flavour": "pcivf",
> >             "pfnum": 0,
> >             "vfnum": 1,
> >             "splittable": false,
> >             "function": {
> >                 "hw_addr": "00:00:00:00:00:00"
> >             }
> >         }
> >     }
> > }
> > 
> > From earlier email:
> > 
> > pci/0000:00:08.0/1: type eth netdev eth6 flavour pcipf pfnum 0
> > pci/0000:00:08.0/2: type eth netdev eth7 flavour pcipf pfnum 0
> > 
> > If you never use pfnum, you can just put the controller ID there, like Netronome.
> >  
> It likely not going to work for us. Because pfnum is not some randomly generated number.
> It is linked to the underlying PCI pf number. {pf0, pf1...}
> Orchestration sw uses this to identify representor of a PF-VF pair.

For orchestration software which is unaware of controllers ports will
still alias on pf/vf nums.

Besides you have one devlink instance per port currently so I'm guessing
there is no pf1 ever, in your case...

> Replacing pfnum with controller number breaks this; and it still doesn't tell user that it's the pf on other_host.

Neither does the opaque controller id. Maybe now you understand better
why I wanted peer objects :/

> So it is used, and would like to continue to use even if there are multiple PFs port (that has same pfnum) under the same eswitch.
> 
> In an alternative,
> Currently we have pcipf, pcivf (and pcisf) flavours. May be if we introduce new flavour say 'epcipf' to indicate external pci PF/VF/SF ports?
> There can be better name than epcipf. I just put epcipf to differentiate it.
> However these ports have same attributes as pcipf, pcivf, pcisf flavours.

I don't think the controllers are a terrible idea. Seems like a fairly
reasonable extension. But MLX don't seem to need them. And you have a
history of trying to make the Linux APIs look like your FW API.

Jiri, would you mind chiming in? What's your take?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-28 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-25 13:58 [PATCH net-next 0/3] devlink show controller info Parav Pandit
2020-08-25 13:58 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] devlink: Add comment block for missing port attributes Parav Pandit
2020-08-25 13:58 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] devlink: Consider other controller while building phys_port_name Parav Pandit
2020-08-26  0:32   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-08-26  4:27     ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-26 20:07       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-08-27  4:31         ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-27 18:32           ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-08-27 20:15             ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-27 21:42               ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-08-28  4:27                 ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-28  5:08                   ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-28 16:43                   ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2020-08-29  3:43                     ` Parav Pandit
2020-09-01  8:19                       ` Jiri Pirko
2020-09-01  8:53                         ` Parav Pandit
2020-09-01  9:17                           ` Jiri Pirko
2020-09-01 21:28                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-02  4:26                               ` Parav Pandit
2020-09-02  4:44                                 ` Parav Pandit
2020-09-02  8:00                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2020-09-02 15:23                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-02 16:18                                     ` Parav Pandit
2020-09-02 20:10                                       ` Parav Pandit
2020-09-03  5:54                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2020-09-03 19:31                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-04  8:43                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2020-09-06  3:08                                           ` Parav Pandit
2020-09-06 16:46                                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-07  7:21                                             ` Jiri Pirko
2020-09-07 16:18                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-08-25 13:58 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] net/mlx5: E-switch, Set controller attribute for PCI PF and VF ports Parav Pandit
2020-09-08 14:42 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/6] devlink show controller number Parav Pandit
2020-09-08 14:42   ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/6] net/mlx5: E-switch, Read controller number from device Parav Pandit
2020-09-08 14:42   ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/6] devlink: Add comment block for missing port attributes Parav Pandit
2020-09-08 14:42   ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/6] devlink: Move structure comments outside of structure Parav Pandit
2020-09-08 14:42   ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/6] devlink: Introduce external controller flag Parav Pandit
2020-09-08 14:42   ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/6] devlink: Introduce controller number Parav Pandit
2020-09-08 18:50     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-09  3:06       ` Parav Pandit
2020-09-08 14:42   ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/6] devlink: Use controller while building phys_port_name Parav Pandit
2020-09-09  4:50 ` [PATCH net-next v3 0/6] devlink show controller number Parav Pandit
2020-09-09  4:50   ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/6] net/mlx5: E-switch, Read controller number from device Parav Pandit
2020-09-09  4:50   ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/6] devlink: Add comment block for missing port attributes Parav Pandit
2020-09-09  4:50   ` [PATCH net-next v3 3/6] devlink: Move structure comments outside of structure Parav Pandit
2020-09-09  4:50   ` [PATCH net-next v3 4/6] devlink: Introduce external controller flag Parav Pandit
2020-09-09  4:50   ` [PATCH net-next v3 5/6] devlink: Introduce controller number Parav Pandit
2020-09-09  4:50   ` [PATCH net-next v3 6/6] devlink: Use controller while building phys_port_name Parav Pandit
2020-09-10 15:02     ` David Ahern
2020-09-09 15:34   ` [PATCH net-next v3 0/6] devlink show controller number Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-09 21:20     ` David Miller

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