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From: "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	Madalin Bucur <madalin.bucur@nxp.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Igal Liberman <Igal.Liberman@freescale.com>,
	Shruti Kanetkar <Shruti@freescale.com>,
	Emil Medve <Emilian.Medve@freescale.com>,
	Scott Wood <oss@buserror.net>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Camelia Alexandra Groza (OSS)" <camelia.groza@oss.nxp.com>
Subject: Re: What is inside GPON SFP module?
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 12:33:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210608103343.dyogfexuase5kddo@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210605144105.GZ30436@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Saturday 05 June 2021 15:41:05 Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 03:04:55PM +0200, Hauke Mehrtens wrote:
> > Is there a list of things these GPON sticks running Linux should do better
> > in the future? For example what to avoid in the EEPROM emulation handling?
> 
> That is just not worth persuing. Large ISP-companies who have plenty of
> buying power have tried to get issues with GPON sticks resolved, and the
> response from the GPON stick manufacturers has not been helpful. I had
> contracted with a national telco over this problem in recent years, and
> I know they tried their best.
> 
> If large ISP companies who are significant customers can't effect any
> fixes, you can be absolutely sure that the voluntary effort around the
> Linux kernel will have no effect.

I see :-( So it does not make sense to try to do anything...

> Yes, we list the modules that don't work well in the kernel source, and
> sometimes we name and shame them, but they don't care.
> 
> For example, there is are a few modules that take up to 60 seconds
> before they respond to any I2C requests, because the I2C is entirely
> emulated by the Linux kernel running on the stick, and it takes that
> long for the stick to boot. Will that ever get fixed? Probably not
> without a hardware redesign. Will that happen? I really doubt it, and
> eevn if it did it doesn't affect the millions of sticks already out
> there.
> 
> IMHO trying to get these issues fixed is pie in the sky.
> 
> 
> -- 
> RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
> FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-08 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-03 14:34 Unsupported phy-connection-type sgmii-2500 in arch/powerpc/boot/dts/fsl/t1023rdb.dts Pali Rohár
2021-06-03 15:12 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-06-03 19:48   ` Pali Rohár
2021-06-04  7:35     ` Madalin Bucur
2021-06-04 17:32       ` Pali Rohár
2021-06-04 19:13         ` Madalin Bucur
2021-06-04 19:27       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-04 19:39         ` Madalin Bucur
2021-06-04 20:00           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-04 21:37             ` Madalin Bucur
2021-06-04 20:23           ` Andrew Lunn
2021-06-04 21:47             ` Madalin Bucur
2021-06-04 23:34               ` Pali Rohár
2021-06-05  0:33                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-05 12:26                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-06-05 12:50                     ` What is inside GPON SFP module? (Was: Re: Unsupported phy-connection-type sgmii-2500 in arch/powerpc/boot/dts/fsl/t1023rdb.dts) Pali Rohár
2021-06-05 13:04                       ` Hauke Mehrtens
2021-06-05 13:31                         ` What is inside GPON SFP module? Pali Rohár
2021-06-05 14:17                           ` Hauke Mehrtens
2021-06-05 14:41                         ` What is inside GPON SFP module? (Was: Re: Unsupported phy-connection-type sgmii-2500 in arch/powerpc/boot/dts/fsl/t1023rdb.dts) Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-08 10:33                           ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2021-06-19 20:35                 ` Unsupported phy-connection-type sgmii-2500 in arch/powerpc/boot/dts/fsl/t1023rdb.dts Pali Rohár
2021-07-04 13:43                 ` [PATCH] powerpc/fsl/dts: Fix phy-connection-type for fm1mac3 Pali Rohár
2021-07-14 17:11                   ` Scott Wood
2021-08-27 11:38                     ` Pali Rohár
2021-09-28 21:39                       ` Pali Rohár
2021-09-29 14:25                         ` Andrew Lunn
2021-10-02  9:06                           ` Pali Rohár
2021-06-04 23:18         ` Unsupported phy-connection-type sgmii-2500 in arch/powerpc/boot/dts/fsl/t1023rdb.dts Pali Rohár

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