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From: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
To: Arseny Krasnov <arseny.krasnov@kaspersky.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Colin Ian King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
	Andra Paraschiv <andraprs@amazon.com>,
	Norbert Slusarek <nslusarek@gmx.net>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org" 
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"oxffffaa@gmail.com" <oxffffaa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/7] virtio/vsock: introduce MSG_EOR flag for SEQPACKET
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 11:06:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210805090657.y2sz3pzhruuolncq@steredhat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e44442c-4cac-dcbc-a88d-17d9878e7d32@kaspersky.com>

On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 11:33:12AM +0300, Arseny Krasnov wrote:
>
>On 04.08.2021 15:57, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
>> Caution: This is an external email. Be cautious while opening links or attachments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Arseny,
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 07:31:33PM +0300, Arseny Krasnov wrote:
>>>       This patchset implements support of MSG_EOR bit for SEQPACKET
>>> AF_VSOCK sockets over virtio transport.
>>>       Idea is to distinguish concepts of 'messages' and 'records'.
>>> Message is result of sending calls: 'write()', 'send()', 'sendmsg()'
>>> etc. It has fixed maximum length, and it bounds are visible using
>>> return from receive calls: 'read()', 'recv()', 'recvmsg()' etc.
>>> Current implementation based on message definition above.
>> Okay, so the implementation we merged is wrong right?
>> Should we disable the feature bit in stable kernels that contain it? Or
>> maybe we can backport the fixes...
>
>Hi,
>
>No, this is correct and it is message boundary based. Idea of this
>patchset is to add extra boundaries marker which i think could be
>useful when we want to send data in seqpacket mode which length
>is bigger than maximum message length(this is limited by transport).
>Of course we can fragment big piece of data too small messages, but 
>this
>requires to carry fragmentation info in data protocol. So In this case
>when we want to maintain boundaries receiver calls recvmsg() until 
>MSG_EOR found.
>But when receiver knows, that data is fit in maximum datagram length,
>it doesn't care about checking MSG_EOR just calling recv() or 
>read()(e.g.
>message based mode).

I'm not sure we should maintain boundaries of multiple send(), from 
POSIX standard [1]:

   SOCK_SEQPACKET
     Provides sequenced, reliable, bidirectional, connection-mode 
     transmission paths for records. A record can be sent using one or 
     more output operations and received using one or more input 
     operations, but a single operation never transfers part of more than 
     one record. Record boundaries are visible to the receiver via the 
     MSG_EOR flag.

 From my understanding a record could be sent with multiple send() and 
received, for example, with a single recvmsg().
The only boundary should be the MSG_EOR flag set by the user on the last 
send() of a record.

 From send() description [2]:

   MSG_EOR
     Terminates a record (if supported by the protocol).

 From recvmsg() description [3]:

   MSG_EOR
     End-of-record was received (if supported by the protocol).

Thanks,
Stefano

[1] 
https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/socket.html
[2] https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/send.html
[3] 
https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/recvmsg.html


  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-05  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-26 16:31 Arseny Krasnov
2021-07-26 16:33 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/7] virtio/vsock: add 'VIRTIO_VSOCK_SEQ_EOM' bit Arseny Krasnov
2021-08-06  7:18   ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-07-26 16:33 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/7] vsock: rename implementation from 'record' to 'message' Arseny Krasnov
2021-08-06  7:20   ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-07-26 16:33 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/7] vhost/vsock: support MSG_EOR bit processing Arseny Krasnov
2021-08-06  7:28   ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-08-06  8:40     ` Arseny Krasnov
2021-08-06  8:47       ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-07-26 16:33 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/7] virito/vsock: " Arseny Krasnov
2021-07-26 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/7] af_vsock: rename variables in receive loop Arseny Krasnov
2021-07-26 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1 6/7] vsock_test: update message bounds test for MSG_EOR Arseny Krasnov
2021-07-26 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1 7/7] vsock_test: 'SO_RCVTIMEO' test for SEQPACKET Arseny Krasnov
2021-07-27  7:59 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/7] virtio/vsock: introduce MSG_EOR flag " Stefano Garzarella
2021-07-27  9:34   ` [MASSMAIL KLMS] " Arseny Krasnov
2021-07-27  9:58     ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-07-27 12:35       ` [MASSMAIL KLMS] " Arseny Krasnov
2021-08-04 12:57 ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-08-05  8:33   ` Arseny Krasnov
2021-08-05  9:06     ` Stefano Garzarella [this message]
2021-08-05  9:21       ` [!!Mass Mail KSE][MASSMAIL KLMS] " Arseny Krasnov
2021-08-06  7:16         ` Stefano Garzarella

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