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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Dongdong Liu <liudongdong3@huawei.com>
Cc: hch@infradead.org, kw@linux.com, logang@deltatee.com,
	leon@kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, rajur@chelsio.com,
	hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 4/9] PCI: Enable 10-Bit Tag support for PCIe Endpoint devices
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 14:54:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210805195407.GA1763784@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d84ede9-8983-50f0-8387-3d4c6db1b042@huawei.com>

On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 03:47:31PM +0800, Dongdong Liu wrote:
> Hi Bjorn
> 
> Many thanks for your review.
> On 2021/8/5 7:17, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 09:47:03PM +0800, Dongdong Liu wrote:
> > > 10-Bit Tag capability, introduced in PCIe-4.0 increases the total Tag
> > > field size from 8 bits to 10 bits.
> > > 
> > > PCIe spec 5.0 r1.0 section 2.2.6.2 "Considerations for Implementing
> > > 10-Bit Tag Capabilities" Implementation Note.
> > > For platforms where the RC supports 10-Bit Tag Completer capability,
> > > it is highly recommended for platform firmware or operating software
> > > that configures PCIe hierarchies to Set the 10-Bit Tag Requester Enable
> > > bit automatically in Endpoints with 10-Bit Tag Requester capability. This
> > > enables the important class of 10-Bit Tag capable adapters that send
> > > Memory Read Requests only to host memory.
> > 
> > Quoted material should be set off with a blank line before it and
> > indented by two spaces so it's clear exactly what comes from the spec
> > and what you've added.  For example, see
> > https://git.kernel.org/linus/ec411e02b7a2
> Good point, will fix.
> > 
> > We need to say why we assume it's safe to enable 10-bit tags for all
> > devices below a Root Port that supports them.  I think this has to do
> > with switches being required to forward 10-bit tags correctly even if
> > they were designed before 10-bit tags were added to the spec.
> 
> PCIe spec 5.0 r1.0 section 2.2.6.2 "Considerations for Implementing
> 10-Bit Tag Capabilities" Implementation Note:
> 
>   Switches that lack 10-Bit Tag Completer capability are still able to
>   forward NPRs and Completions carrying 10-Bit Tags correctly, since the
>   two new Tag bits are in TLP Header bits that were formerly Reserved,
>   and Switches are required to forward Reserved TLP Header bits without
>   modification. However, if such a Switch detects an error with an NPR
>   carrying a 10-Bit Tag, and that Switch handles the error by acting as
>   the Completer for the NPR, the resulting Completion will have an
>   invalid 10-Bit Tag. Thus, it is strongly recommended that Switches
>   between any components using 10-Bit Tags support 10-Bit Tag Completer
>   capability.  Note that Switches supporting 16.0 GT/s data rates or
>   greater must support 10-Bit Tag Completer capability.
> 
> This patch also consider to enable 10-Bit Tag for EP device need RP
> and Switch device support 10-Bit Tag Completer capability.
> > 
> > And it should call out any cases where it is *not* safe, e.g., if P2P
> > traffic is an issue.
> Yes, indeed.
> > 
> > If there are cases where we don't want to enable 10-bit tags, whether
> > it's to enable P2P traffic or merely to work around device defects,
> > that ability needs to be here from the beginning.  If somebody needs
> > to bisect with 10-bit tags disabled, we don't want a bisection hole
> > between this commit and the commit that adds the control.
> We provide sysfs file to disable 10-bit tag for P2P traffic when needed.
> The details see PATCH 7/8/9.

A mechanism for avoiding problems needs to be present from the very
beginning so there's no bisection hole.  It should not be added by a
future patch.

The sysfs file is a start, but if we run into an issue, it could mean
that we can't boot and run long enough to use sysfs to disable 10-bit
tags.  So I think we might need a kernel parameter that disables it
(and possibly other things like MPS optimization).

> Current we do not know the 10-bit tag defective devices, current may no
> need do as 8-bit tag does in quirk_no_ext_tags().

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-05 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-04 13:46 [PATCH V7 0/9] PCI: Enable 10-Bit tag support for PCIe devices Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 13:47 ` [PATCH V7 1/9] PCI: Use cached Device Capabilities Register Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 13:47 ` [PATCH V7 2/9] PCI: Use cached Device Capabilities 2 Register Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 13:47 ` [PATCH V7 3/9] PCI: Add 10-Bit Tag register definitions Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 13:47 ` [PATCH V7 4/9] PCI: Enable 10-Bit Tag support for PCIe Endpoint devices Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 23:17   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-05  7:47     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-05 19:54       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2021-08-07  6:19         ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 13:47 ` [PATCH V7 5/9] PCI/IOV: Enable 10-Bit tag support for PCIe VF devices Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 23:29   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-05  8:03     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-06 22:59       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-07  7:46         ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 13:47 ` [PATCH V7 6/9] PCI: Enable 10-Bit Tag support for PCIe RP devices Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 23:38   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-05  8:25     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-09 17:26       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-10 11:59         ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 13:47 ` [PATCH V7 7/9] PCI/sysfs: Add a 10-Bit Tag sysfs file Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 15:51   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-08-05 13:14     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-05 13:53       ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-08-05 15:36       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-08-04 23:49   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-05  8:37     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-05 15:31       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-07  7:01         ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-09 17:37           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-10 12:16             ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 23:52   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-05  8:38     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 13:47 ` [PATCH V7 8/9] PCI/IOV: Add 10-Bit Tag sysfs files for VF devices Dongdong Liu
2021-08-05  0:05   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-05  8:47     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-05  9:39     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 13:47 ` [PATCH V7 9/9] PCI/P2PDMA: Add a 10-Bit Tag check in P2PDMA Dongdong Liu
2021-08-04 15:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-08-05  8:49     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-05 18:12   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-07  7:11     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-08-09 17:31       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-10 12:31         ` Dongdong Liu

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