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From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com> To: netdev@vger.kernel.org Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>, "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>, "Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>, "Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>, "Vivien Didelot" <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>, "Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>, "Vladimir Oltean" <olteanv@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>, "Alvin Šipraga" <alsi@bang-olufsen.dk>, "ACPI Devel Maling List" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>, kernel-team <kernel-team@android.com>, "Len Brown" <lenb@kernel.org> Subject: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] Make the PHY library stop being so greedy when binding the generic PHY driver Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 01:50:50 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20210901225053.1205571-1-vladimir.oltean@nxp.com> (raw) This is a continuation of the discussion on patch "[v1,1/2] driver core: fw_devlink: Add support for FWNODE_FLAG_BROKEN_PARENT" from here: https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/patch/20210826074526.825517-2-saravanak@google.com/ Summary: in a complex combination of device dependencies which is not really relevant to what is being proposed here, DSA ends up calling phylink_of_phy_connect during a period in which the PHY driver goes through a series of probe deferral events. The central point of that discussion is that DSA seems "broken" for expecting the PHY driver to probe immediately on PHYs belonging to the internal MDIO buses of switches. A few suggestions were made about what to do, but some were not satisfactory and some did not solve the problem. In fact, fw_devlink, the mechanism that causes the PHY driver to defer probing in this particular case, has some significant "issues" too, but its "issues" are only in quotes "because at worst it'd allow a few unnecessary deferred probes": https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/patch/20210826074526.825517-2-saravanak@google.com/#24418895 So if that's the criterion by which an issue is an issue, maybe we should take a step back and look at the bigger picture. There is nothing about the idea that a PHY might defer probing, or about the changes proposed here, that has anything with DSA. Furthermore, the changes done by this series solve the problem in the same way: "they allow a few unnecessary deferred probes" <- in this case they provoke this to the caller of phy_attach_direct. If we look at commit 16983507742c ("net: phy: probe PHY drivers synchronously"), we see that the PHY library expectation is for the PHY device to have a PHY driver bound to it as soon as device_add() finishes. Well, as it turns out, in case the PHY device has any supplier which is not ready, this is not possible, but that patch still seems to ensure that the process of binding a driver to the device has at least started. That process will continue for a while, and will race with phy_attach_direct calls, so we need to make the latter observe the fact that a driver is struggling to probe, and wait for it a bit more. What I've not tested is loading the PHY module at runtime, and seeing how phy_attach_direct behaves then. I expect that this change set will not alter the behavior in that case: the genphy will still bind to a device with no driver, and phy_attach_direct will not return -EPROBE_DEFER in that case. I might not be very versed in the device core/internals, but the patches make sense to me, and worked as intended from the first try on my system (Turris MOX with mv88e6xxx), which was modified to make the same "sins" as those called out in the thread above: - use PHY interrupts provided by the switch itself as an interrupt-controller - call of_mdiobus_register from setup() and not from probe(), so as to not circumvent fw_devlink's limitations, and still get to hit the PHY probe deferral conditions. So feedback and testing on other platforms is very appreciated. Vladimir Oltean (3): net: phy: don't bind genphy in phy_attach_direct if the specific driver defers probe net: dsa: destroy the phylink instance on any error in dsa_slave_phy_setup net: dsa: allow the phy_connect() call to return -EPROBE_DEFER drivers/base/dd.c | 21 +++++++++++++++++++-- drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c | 8 ++++++++ include/linux/device.h | 1 + net/dsa/dsa2.c | 2 ++ net/dsa/slave.c | 12 +++++------- 5 files changed, 35 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) -- 2.25.1
next reply other threads:[~2021-09-01 22:51 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-09-01 22:50 Vladimir Oltean [this message] 2021-09-01 22:50 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/3] net: phy: don't bind genphy in phy_attach_direct if the specific driver defers probe Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 5:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-09-02 10:11 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 10:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2021-09-02 11:17 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 14:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2021-09-02 18:50 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-02 19:23 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 19:51 ` Andrew Lunn 2021-09-02 20:33 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-09-02 21:33 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-02 21:39 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 22:24 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-02 22:45 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 23:02 ` Andrew Lunn 2021-09-02 23:26 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-03 0:04 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-03 20:48 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-03 22:06 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-04 21:59 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-04 23:25 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-05 0:41 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-03 9:27 ` Ioana Ciornei 2021-09-01 22:50 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 2/3] net: dsa: destroy the phylink instance on any error in dsa_slave_phy_setup Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 12:25 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-02 23:21 ` Florian Fainelli 2021-09-01 22:50 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 3/3] net: dsa: allow the phy_connect() call to return -EPROBE_DEFER Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] Make the PHY library stop being so greedy when binding the generic PHY driver Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-02 12:35 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 12:59 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 13:26 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-02 15:23 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 16:31 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-02 17:10 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 17:50 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-02 19:05 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 20:03 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-02 20:21 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 20:29 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-03 16:22 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-03 17:21 ` Andrew Lunn 2021-09-03 18:58 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-03 19:56 ` Andrew Lunn 2021-09-03 20:08 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-03 18:54 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-03 20:11 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 20:07 ` Andrew Lunn 2021-09-02 20:32 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 21:39 ` Russell King (Oracle) 2021-09-02 22:05 ` Vladimir Oltean 2021-09-02 23:29 ` Saravana Kannan
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