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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
"Vladimir Oltean" <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Vivien Didelot" <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
"Alvin Šipraga" <alsi@bang-olufsen.dk>,
"ACPI Devel Maling List" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
kernel-team <kernel-team@android.com>,
"Len Brown" <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] Make the PHY library stop being so greedy when binding the generic PHY driver
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 23:32:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210902203248.dy5b6ismgb55s5cd@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YTEvFR2WGQmG3h/C@lunn.ch>
On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 10:07:49PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > The interrupt controller _has_ been set up. The trouble is that the
> > interrupt controller has the same OF node as the switch itself, and the
> > same OF node. Therefore, fw_devlink waits for the _entire_ switch to
> > finish probing, it doesn't have insight into the fact that the
> > dependency is just on the interrupt controller.
>
> That seems to be the problem. fw_devlink appears to think probe is an
> atomic operation. A device is not probed, or full probed. Where as the
> drivers are making use of it being non atomic.
>
> Maybe fw_devlink needs the third state, probing. And when deciding if
> a device can be probed and depends on a device which is currently
> probing, it looks deeper, follows the phandle and see if the resource
> is actually available?
This is interesting because there already exists a device link state for
when the consumer is "probing", but for the supplier, it's binary:
/**
* enum device_link_state - Device link states.
* @DL_STATE_NONE: The presence of the drivers is not being tracked.
* @DL_STATE_DORMANT: None of the supplier/consumer drivers is present.
* @DL_STATE_AVAILABLE: The supplier driver is present, but the consumer is not.
* @DL_STATE_CONSUMER_PROBE: The consumer is probing (supplier driver present).
* @DL_STATE_ACTIVE: Both the supplier and consumer drivers are present.
* @DL_STATE_SUPPLIER_UNBIND: The supplier driver is unbinding.
*/
The check that's killing us is in device_links_check_suppliers, and is
for DL_STATE_AVAILABLE:
list_for_each_entry(link, &dev->links.suppliers, c_node) {
if (!(link->flags & DL_FLAG_MANAGED))
continue;
if (link->status != DL_STATE_AVAILABLE &&
!(link->flags & DL_FLAG_SYNC_STATE_ONLY)) {
device_links_missing_supplier(dev);
dev_err(dev, "probe deferral - supplier %s not ready\n",
dev_name(link->supplier));
ret = -EPROBE_DEFER;
break;
}
WRITE_ONCE(link->status, DL_STATE_CONSUMER_PROBE);
}
Anyway, I was expecting quite a different reaction from this patch
series, and especially one from Saravana. We are essentially battling to
handle an -EPROBE_DEFER we don't need (the battle might be worth it
though, in the general case, which is one of the reasons I posted them).
But these patches also solve DSA's issue with the circular dependency
between the switch and its internal PHYs, and nobody seems to have asked
the most important question: why?
The PHY should return -EPROBE_DEFER ad infinitum, since its supplier has
never finished probing by the time it calls phy_attach_direct.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-02 20:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-01 22:50 [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] Make the PHY library stop being so greedy when binding the generic PHY driver Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-01 22:50 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/3] net: phy: don't bind genphy in phy_attach_direct if the specific driver defers probe Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 5:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-02 10:11 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 10:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-02 11:17 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 14:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-09-02 18:50 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 19:23 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 19:51 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-02 20:33 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-09-02 21:33 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 21:39 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 22:24 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 22:45 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 23:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-02 23:26 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-03 0:04 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-03 20:48 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-03 22:06 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-04 21:59 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-04 23:25 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-05 0:41 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-03 9:27 ` Ioana Ciornei
2021-09-01 22:50 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 2/3] net: dsa: destroy the phylink instance on any error in dsa_slave_phy_setup Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 12:25 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 23:21 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-09-01 22:50 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 3/3] net: dsa: allow the phy_connect() call to return -EPROBE_DEFER Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] Make the PHY library stop being so greedy when binding the generic PHY driver Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 12:35 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 12:59 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 13:26 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 15:23 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 16:31 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 17:10 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 17:50 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 19:05 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 20:03 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 20:21 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 20:29 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-03 16:22 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-03 17:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-03 18:58 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-03 19:56 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-03 20:08 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-03 18:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-03 20:11 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 20:07 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-02 20:32 ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2021-09-02 21:39 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 22:05 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-02 23:29 ` Saravana Kannan
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