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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net] net: dsa: tear down devlink port regions when tearing down the devlink port on error
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 23:21:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210908202106.bdwnwwx3gcvw54my@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a71d0e0c-159e-e82e-36f2-bf3434445343@gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 09:49:48AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 9/7/2021 9:43 AM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 08:47:35AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 9/7/2021 8:44 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 14:07:35 +0300 Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > > > > Again, fallback but not during devlink port register. The devlink port
> > > > > was registered just fine, but our plans changed midway. If you want to
> > > > > create a net device with an associated devlink port, first you need to
> > > > > create the devlink port and then the net device, then you need to link
> > > > > the two using devlink_port_type_eth_set, at least according to my
> > > > > understanding.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So the failure is during the creation of the **net device**, we now have a
> > > > > devlink port which was originally intended to be of the Ethernet type
> > > > > and have a physical flavour, but it will not be backed by any net device,
> > > > > because the creation of that just failed. So the question is simply what
> > > > > to do with that devlink port.
> > > > 
> > > > Is the failure you're referring to discovered inside the
> > > > register_netdevice() call?
> > > 
> > > It is before, at the time we attempt to connect to the PHY device, prior to
> > > registering the netdev, we may fail that PHY connection, tearing down the
> > > entire switch because of that is highly undesirable.
> > > 
> > > Maybe we should re-order things a little bit and try to register devlink
> > > ports only after we successfully registered with the PHY/SFP and prior to
> > > registering the netdev?
> > 
> > Maybe, but it should not really matter. EPROBE_DEFER exists, and can
> > happen. The probe can fail for other reasons. All core code should be
> > cleanly undoable. Maybe we are pushing it a little by only wanting to
> > undo a single port, rather than the whole switch, but still, i would
> > make the core handle this, not rearrange the driver. It is not robust
> > otherwise.
> 
> Well yes, in case my comment was not clear, I was referring to the way that
> DSA register devlink ports, not how the mv88e6xxx driver does it. That is
> assuming that it is possible and there was not a reason for configuring the
> devlink ports ahead of the switch driver coming up.

There is a comment in dsa_switch_setup:

	/* Setup devlink port instances now, so that the switch
	 * setup() can register regions etc, against the ports
	 */

The fact of the matter is that in the current driver-facing API, there
is no better place to register devlink port regions than .setup: we have
no .port_setup and .port_teardown. This also forces us to register the
devlink ports earlier than we register the net devices.

In one of my previous replies to Leon I did indicate the introduction of
these two methods as a possibly less horrible way of packaging what we
have now in this patch as .port_reinit_as_unused, which is basically a
.port_teardown followed immediately by a .port_setup, as it would be
implemented by mv88e6xxx.

With the introduction of .port_setup and .port_teardown as an immediate
bug fix, reordering the devlink port registration vs the netdev connection
to the PHY could be done as further work, but it would sort of be a moot
point, since it would not solve any problem anymore.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-08 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-02 23:17 Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-05  7:07 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-05  8:45   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-05 10:25     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-05 10:31       ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-05 10:47         ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-05 11:07           ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-05 13:01             ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-05 15:01               ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-07 15:44             ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-09-07 15:47               ` Florian Fainelli
2021-09-07 16:43                 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-07 16:49                   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-09-07 22:59                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-08 20:21                     ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]

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