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From: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
To: "Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>, "Michael Walle" <michael@walle.cc>
Cc: andrew@lunn.ch, anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com,
bigeasy@linutronix.de, davem@davemloft.net,
dvorax.fuxbrumer@linux.intel.com, f.fainelli@gmail.com,
jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com, kuba@kernel.org, kurt@linutronix.de,
linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, pavel@ucw.cz,
sasha.neftin@intel.com, vinicius.gomes@intel.com,
vitaly.lifshits@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 5/5] igc: Export LEDs
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:43:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <25d3e798-09f5-56b5-5764-c60435109dd2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210727183213.73f34141@thinkpad>
On 27.07.2021 18:32, Marek Behún wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 17:53:58 +0200
> Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc> wrote:
>
>>> If we used the devicename as you are suggesting, then for the two LEDs
>>> the devicename part would be the same:
>>> ledA -> macA -> ethernet0
>>> ledB -> phyB -> ethernet0
>>> although they are clearly on different MACs.
>>
>> Why is that the case? Why can't both the MAC and the PHY request a
>> unique name from the same namespace?
>
> So all the network related devices should request a unique network
> relate device ID? Should also wireless PHY devices do this? WWAN modems?
> And all these should have the same template for devicename part withing
> /sys/class/leds? What should be the template for the devicename, if
> wireless PHYs and WWAN modems could also be part of this? It cannot be
> "ethernet" anymore.
>
> It seems a better idea to me to just some nice identifier for the LED
> controller.
>
>> As Andrew pointed out, the names in
>> /sys/class/leds don't really matter. Ok, it will still depend on the
>> probe order which might not be the case if you split it between ethmac
>> and ethphy.
>
> Yes, the LED name does not matter. But the LED subsystem requires names
> in a specific format, this is already decided and documented, we are
> not going to be changing this. The only reasonable thing we can do now
> is to choose a sane devicename.
>
>> Sorry, if I may ask stupid questions here. I don't want to cause much
>> trouble, here. I was just wondering why we have to make up two different
>> (totally unrelated names to the network interface names) instead of just
>> one (again totally unrelated to the interface name and index).
>
> It seems more logical to me from kernel's point of view.
>
>> But I was actually referring to your "you see the leds in /sys/ of all
>> the network adapters". That problem still persists, right?
>
> Yes, this still persists. But we really do not want to start
> introducing namespaces to the LED subsystem.
>
> Marek
>
Did we come to any conclusion?
My preliminary r8169 implementation now creates the following LED names:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul 26 22:50 r8169-led0-0300 -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:03:00.0/net/enp3s0/r8169-led0-0300
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul 26 22:50 r8169-led1-0300 -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:03:00.0/net/enp3s0/r8169-led1-0300
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul 26 22:50 r8169-led2-0300 -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:03:00.0/net/enp3s0/r8169-led2-0300
I understood that LEDs should at least be renamed to r8169-0300::link-0
to link-2 Is this correct? Or do we have to wait with any network LED support
for a name discussion outcome?
For the different LED modes I defined private hw triggers (using trigger_type
to make the triggers usable with r8169 LEDs only). The trigger attribute now
looks like this:
[none] link_10_100 link_1000 link_10_100_1000 link_ACT link_10_100_ACT link_1000_ACT link_10_100_1000_ACT
Nice, or? Issue is just that these trigger names really should be made a
standard for all network LEDs. I don't care about the exact naming, important
is just that trigger names are the same, no matter whether it's about a r8169-
or igc- or whatever network chip controlled LEDs.
And I don't have a good solution for initialization yet. LED mode is whatever
BIOS sets, but initial trigger value is "none". I would have to read the
initial LED control register values, iterate over the triggers to find the
matching one, and call led_trigger_set() to properly set this trigger as
current trigger. Most likely this would need some LED core extensions:
- enable iterating over all triggers with a particular trigger_type
- enable triggers to have private data
Quite some hassle for a small functionality.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-28 20:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-16 21:24 [PATCH net-next 0/5][pull request] 1GbE Intel Wired LAN Driver Updates 2021-07-16 Tony Nguyen
2021-07-16 21:24 ` [PATCH net-next 1/5] igc: Add possibility to add flex filter Tony Nguyen
2021-07-16 21:24 ` [PATCH net-next 2/5] igc: Integrate flex filter into ethtool ops Tony Nguyen
2021-07-16 21:24 ` [PATCH net-next 3/5] igc: Allow for Flex Filters to be installed Tony Nguyen
2021-07-16 21:24 ` [PATCH net-next 4/5] igc: Make flex filter more flexible Tony Nguyen
2021-07-16 21:24 ` [PATCH net-next 5/5] igc: Export LEDs Tony Nguyen
2021-07-16 21:56 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-18 22:10 ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-07-18 22:33 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-19 6:17 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2021-07-19 9:46 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-07-19 6:06 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2021-07-19 13:15 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-20 8:54 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2021-07-21 19:18 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-18 22:19 ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-07-19 0:40 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-20 15:00 ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-07-20 15:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-20 20:29 ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-07-21 14:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-21 16:02 ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-07-21 18:23 ` Pavel Machek
2021-07-21 18:25 ` Pavel Machek
2021-07-21 18:45 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-21 19:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-21 20:07 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-21 20:54 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-21 21:31 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-21 22:45 ` Pavel Machek
2021-07-22 1:45 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-22 2:19 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-21 22:34 ` Pavel Machek
2021-07-22 3:52 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-07-26 17:42 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2021-07-26 18:44 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-26 20:59 ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-07-27 0:06 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-27 1:57 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-27 8:15 ` Michael Walle
2021-07-27 14:56 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-27 15:03 ` Michael Walle
2021-07-27 15:24 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-27 15:28 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-27 15:53 ` Michael Walle
2021-07-27 16:23 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-27 16:32 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-27 16:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-27 19:42 ` Michael Walle
2021-07-28 20:43 ` Heiner Kallweit [this message]
2021-07-29 6:39 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2021-07-29 8:59 ` Marek Behún
2021-07-29 21:54 ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-10 17:29 ` Pavel Machek
2021-08-10 17:55 ` Marek Behún
2021-08-10 19:53 ` Pavel Machek
2021-08-10 20:53 ` Marek Behún
2021-08-17 19:02 ` Pavel Machek
2021-08-25 15:26 ` Marek Behún
2021-08-26 12:45 ` Pavel Machek
2021-08-10 20:46 ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-10 21:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-07-27 13:55 ` Marek Behún
2021-08-10 17:22 ` Documentation for naming LEDs was " Pavel Machek
2021-07-19 21:48 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2021-07-20 13:31 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2021-07-17 0:30 ` [PATCH net-next 0/5][pull request] 1GbE Intel Wired LAN Driver Updates 2021-07-16 patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2021-07-17 17:36 ` Andrew Lunn
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