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From: Leonard Crestez <cdleonard@gmail.com> To: Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>, Leonard Crestez <cdleonard@gmail.com>, David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org> Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>, Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@amazon.co.jp>, Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@google.com>, Francesco Ruggeri <fruggeri@arista.com>, Mat Martineau <mathew.j.martineau@linux.intel.com>, Christoph Paasch <cpaasch@apple.com>, Ivan Delalande <colona@arista.com>, Priyaranjan Jha <priyarjha@google.com>, Menglong Dong <dong.menglong@zte.com.cn>, open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com> Subject: Re: [RFCv2 1/9] tcp: authopt: Initial support and key management Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 22:08:57 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <44e5ae2b-0a9c-b5bc-19d2-f037de061944@gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <68749e37-8e29-7a51-2186-7692f5fd6a79@gmail.com> On 11.08.2021 17:31, Dmitry Safonov wrote: > On 8/11/21 9:29 AM, Leonard Crestez wrote: >> On 8/10/21 11:41 PM, Dmitry Safonov wrote: >>> I wonder if it's also worth saving some bytes by something like >>> struct tcp_ao_key *key; >>> >>> With >>> struct tcp_ao_key { >>> u8 keylen; >>> u8 key[0]; >>> }; >>> >>> Hmm? >> >> This increases memory management complexity for very minor gains. Very >> few tcp_authopt_key will ever be created. > > The change doesn't seem to be big, like: > --- a/net/ipv4/tcp_authopt.c > +++ b/net/ipv4/tcp_authopt.c > @@ -422,8 +422,16 @@ int tcp_set_authopt_key(struct sock *sk, sockptr_t > optval, unsig> > key_info = __tcp_authopt_key_info_lookup(sk, info, opt.local_id); > if (key_info) > tcp_authopt_key_del(sk, info, key_info); > + > + key = sock_kmalloc(sk, sizeof(*key) + opt.keylen, GFP_KERNEL | > __GFP_ZERO); > + if (!key) { > + tcp_authopt_alg_release(alg); > + return -ENOMEM; > + } > + > key_info = sock_kmalloc(sk, sizeof(*key_info), GFP_KERNEL | > __GFP_ZERO); > if (!key_info) { > + sock_kfree_s(sk, key, sizeof(*key) + opt.keylen); > tcp_authopt_alg_release(alg); > return -ENOMEM; > } > > I don't know, probably it'll be enough for every user to limit their > keys by length of 80, but if one day it won't be enough - this ABI will > be painful to extend. struct tcp_authopt_key also needs to be modified and a separate copy_from_user is required. It's not very complicated but not very useful either. >>>> +struct tcp_authopt_key { >>>> + /** @flags: Combination of &enum tcp_authopt_key_flag */ >>>> + __u32 flags; >>>> + /** @local_id: Local identifier */ >>>> + __u32 local_id; >>>> + /** @send_id: keyid value for send */ >>>> + __u8 send_id; >>>> + /** @recv_id: keyid value for receive */ >>>> + __u8 recv_id; >>>> + /** @alg: One of &enum tcp_authopt_alg */ >>>> + __u8 alg; >>>> + /** @keylen: Length of the key buffer */ >>>> + __u8 keylen; >>>> + /** @key: Secret key */ >>>> + __u8 key[TCP_AUTHOPT_MAXKEYLEN]; >>>> + /** >>>> + * @addr: Key is only valid for this address >>>> + * >>>> + * Ignored unless TCP_AUTHOPT_KEY_ADDR_BIND flag is set >>>> + */ >>>> + struct __kernel_sockaddr_storage addr; >>>> +}; >>> >>> It'll be an ABI if this is accepted. As it is - it can't support >>> RFC5925 fully. >>> Extending syscall ABI is painful. I think, even the initial ABI *must* >>> support >>> all possible features of the RFC. >>> In other words, there must be src_addr, src_port, dst_addr and dst_port. >>> I can see from docs you've written you don't want to support a mix of >>> different >>> addr/port MKTs, so you can return -EINVAL or -ENOTSUPP for any value >>> but zero. >>> This will create an ABI that can be later extended to fully support RFC. >> >> RFC states that MKT connection identifiers can be specified using ranges >> and wildcards and the details are up to the implementation. Keys are >> *NOT* just bound to a classical TCP 4-tuple. >> >> * src_addr and src_port is implicit in socket binding. Maybe in theory >> src_addr they could apply for a server socket bound to 0.0.0.0:PORT but >> userspace can just open more sockets. >> * dst_port is not supported by MD5 and I can't think of any useful >> usecase. This is either well known (179 for BGP) or auto-allocated. >> * tcp_md5 was recently enhanced allow a "prefixlen" for addr and >> "l3mdev" ifindex binding. >> >> This last point shows that the binding features people require can't be >> easily predicted in advance so it's better to allow the rules to be >> extended. > > Yeah, I see both changes you mention went on easy way as they reused > existing paddings in the ABI structures. > Ok, if you don't want to reserve src_addr/src_port/dst_addr/dst_port, > than how about reserving some space for those instead? My idea was that each additional binding featurs can be added as a new bit flag in tcp_authopt_key_flag and the structure extended. Older applications won't pass the flag and kernel will silently accept the shorter optval and you get compatibility. As far as I can tell MD5 supports binding in 3 ways: 1) By dst ip address 2) By dst ip address and prefixlen 3) By ifindex for vrfs Current version of tcp_authopt only supports (1) but I think adding the other methods isn't actually difficult at all. I'd rather not guess at future features by adding unused fields. >>> The same is about key: I don't think you need to define/use >>> tcp_authopt_alg. >>> Just use algo name - that way TCP-AO will automatically be able to use >>> any algo supported by crypto engine. >>> See how xfrm does it, e.g.: >>> struct xfrm_algo_auth { >>> char alg_name[64]; >>> unsigned int alg_key_len; /* in bits */ >>> unsigned int alg_trunc_len; /* in bits */ >>> char alg_key[0]; >>> }; >>> >>> So you can let a user chose maclen instead of hard-coding it. >>> Much more extendable than what you propose. >> >> This complicates ABI and implementation with features that are not >> needed. I'd much rather only expose an enum of real-world tcp-ao >> algorithms. > > I see it exactly the opposite way: a new enum unnecessary complicates > ABI, instead of passing alg_name[] to crypto engine. No need to add any > support in tcp-ao as the algorithms are already provided by kernel. > That is how it transparently works for ipsec, why not for tcp-ao? The TCP Authentication Option standard has been out there for many many years now and alternative algorithms are not widely used. I think cisco has a third algorithm? What you're asking for is a large extension of the IETF standard. If you look at the rest of this series I had a lot of trouble with crypto tfm allocation context so I had to create per-cpu pool, similar to tcp-md5. Should I potentially create a pool for each alg known to crypto-api? Letting use control algorithms and traffickey and mac lengths creates new potential avenues for privilege escalation that need to be checked. As much as possible I would like to avoid exposing the linux crypto api through TCP sockopts. I was also thinking of having a non-namespaced sysctl to disable tcp_authopt by default for security reasons. Unless you're running a router you should never let userspace touch these options. >>> [..] >>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_TCP_AUTHOPT >>>> + case TCP_AUTHOPT: { >>>> + struct tcp_authopt info; >>>> + >>>> + if (get_user(len, optlen)) >>>> + return -EFAULT; >>>> + >>>> + lock_sock(sk); >>>> + tcp_get_authopt_val(sk, &info); >>>> + release_sock(sk); >>>> + >>>> + len = min_t(unsigned int, len, sizeof(info)); >>>> + if (put_user(len, optlen)) >>>> + return -EFAULT; >>>> + if (copy_to_user(optval, &info, len)) >>>> + return -EFAULT; >>>> + return 0; >>>> + } >>> >>> I'm pretty sure it's not a good choice to write partly tcp_authopt. >>> And a user has no way to check what's the correct len on this kernel. >>> Instead of len = min_t(unsigned int, len, sizeof(info)), it should be >>> if (len != sizeof(info)) >>> return -EINVAL; >> >> Purpose is to allow sockopts to grow as md5 has grown. > > md5 has not grown. See above. > > Another issue with your approach > > + /* If userspace optlen is too short fill the rest with zeros */ > + if (optlen > sizeof(opt)) > + return -EINVAL; > + memset(&opt, 0, sizeof(opt)); > + if (copy_from_sockptr(&opt, optval, optlen)) > + return -EFAULT; > > is that userspace compiled with updated/grew structure will fail on > older kernel. So, no extension without breaking something is possible. Userspace that needs new features and also compatibility with older kernels could check something like uname. I think this is already a problem with md5: passing TCP_MD5SIG_FLAG_PREFIX on an old kernel simply won't take effect and that's fine. The bigger concern is to ensure that old binaries work without changes. > Which also reminds me that currently you don't validate (opt.flags) for > unknown by kernel flags. Not sure what you mean, it is explicitly only known flags that are copied from userspace. I can make setsockopt return an error on unknown flags, this will make new apps fail more explicitly on old kernels. > Extending syscalls is impossible without breaking userspace if ABI is > not designed with extensibility in mind. That was quite a big problem, > and still is. Please, read this carefully: > https://lwn.net/Articles/830666/ > > That is why I'm suggesting you all those changes that will be harder to > fix when/if your patches get accepted. Both of the sockopt structs have a "flags" field and structure expansion will be accompanied by new flags. Is this not sufficient for compatibility?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-11 19:09 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-08-09 21:35 [RFCv2 0/9] tcp: Initial support for RFC5925 auth option Leonard Crestez 2021-08-09 21:35 ` [RFCv2 1/9] tcp: authopt: Initial support and key management Leonard Crestez 2021-08-10 20:41 ` Dmitry Safonov 2021-08-11 8:29 ` Leonard Crestez 2021-08-11 13:42 ` David Ahern 2021-08-11 19:11 ` Leonard Crestez 2021-08-11 20:26 ` Dmitry Safonov 2021-08-11 20:26 ` David Ahern 2021-08-11 14:31 ` Dmitry Safonov 2021-08-11 17:15 ` David Ahern 2021-08-11 20:12 ` Dmitry Safonov 2021-08-11 20:23 ` David Ahern 2021-08-11 19:08 ` Leonard Crestez [this message] 2021-08-12 19:46 ` Leonard Crestez 2021-08-09 21:35 ` [RFCv2 2/9] docs: Add user documentation for tcp_authopt Leonard Crestez 2021-08-09 21:35 ` [RFCv2 3/9] tcp: authopt: Add crypto initialization Leonard Crestez 2021-08-09 21:35 ` [RFCv2 4/9] tcp: authopt: Compute packet signatures Leonard Crestez 2021-08-09 21:35 ` [RFCv2 5/9] tcp: authopt: Hook into tcp core Leonard Crestez 2021-08-09 21:35 ` [RFCv2 6/9] tcp: authopt: Add key selection controls Leonard Crestez 2021-08-09 21:35 ` [RFCv2 7/9] tcp: authopt: Add snmp counters Leonard Crestez 2021-08-09 21:35 ` [RFCv2 8/9] selftests: Initial TCP-AO support for nettest Leonard Crestez 2021-08-09 21:35 ` [RFCv2 9/9] selftests: Initial TCP-AO support for fcnal-test Leonard Crestez 2021-08-11 13:46 ` David Ahern 2021-08-11 19:09 ` Leonard Crestez
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