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From: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
To: Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/4] ethtool: runtime-resume netdev parent before ethtool ioctl ops
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 23:32:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75bdf142-f5f4-9a98-bf85-ac2cbbf1179b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4744988-4463-6463-243a-354cd87c4ced@ti.com>

On 03.08.2021 22:41, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
> 
> 
> On 01/08/2021 13:36, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
>> If a network device is runtime-suspended then:
>> - network device may be flagged as detached and all ethtool ops (even if not
>>    accessing the device) will fail because netif_device_present() returns
>>    false
>> - ethtool ops may fail because device is not accessible (e.g. because being
>>    in D3 in case of a PCI device)
>>
>> It may not be desirable that userspace can't use even simple ethtool ops
>> that not access the device if interface or link is down. To be more friendly
>> to userspace let's ensure that device is runtime-resumed when executing the
>> respective ethtool op in kernel.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
>> ---
>>   net/ethtool/ioctl.c | 18 +++++++++++++++---
>>   1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/net/ethtool/ioctl.c b/net/ethtool/ioctl.c
>> index baa5d1004..b7ff9abe7 100644
>> --- a/net/ethtool/ioctl.c
>> +++ b/net/ethtool/ioctl.c
>> @@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
>>   #include <linux/rtnetlink.h>
>>   #include <linux/sched/signal.h>
>>   #include <linux/net.h>
>> +#include <linux/pm_runtime.h>
>>   #include <net/devlink.h>
>>   #include <net/xdp_sock_drv.h>
>>   #include <net/flow_offload.h>
>> @@ -2589,7 +2590,7 @@ int dev_ethtool(struct net *net, struct ifreq *ifr)
>>       int rc;
>>       netdev_features_t old_features;
>>   -    if (!dev || !netif_device_present(dev))
>> +    if (!dev)
>>           return -ENODEV;
>>         if (copy_from_user(&ethcmd, useraddr, sizeof(ethcmd)))
>> @@ -2645,10 +2646,18 @@ int dev_ethtool(struct net *net, struct ifreq *ifr)
>>               return -EPERM;
>>       }
>>   +    if (dev->dev.parent)
>> +        pm_runtime_get_sync(dev->dev.parent);
> 
> the PM Runtime should allow to wake up parent when child is resumed if everything is configured properly.
> 
Not sure if there's any case yet where the netdev-embedded device is power-managed.
Typically only the parent (e.g. a PCI device) is.

> rpm_resume()
> ...
>     if (!parent && dev->parent) {
>  --> here
> 
Currently we don't get that far because we will bail out here already:

else if (dev->power.disable_depth > 0)
		retval = -EACCES;

If netdev-embedded device isn't power-managed then disable_depth is 1.

> So, hence PM runtime calls are moved to from drivers to net_core wouldn't be more correct approach to
> enable PM runtime for netdev->dev and lets PM runtime do the job?
> 
Where would netdev->dev be runtime-resumed so that netif_device_present() passes?
Wouldn't we then need RPM ops for the parent (e.g. PCI) and for netdev->dev?
E.g. the parent runtime-resume can be triggered by a PCI PME, then it would
have to resume netdev->dev.

> But, to be honest, I'm not sure adding PM runtime manipulation to the net core is a good idea -

The TI CPSW driver runtime-resumes the device in begin ethtool op and suspends
it in complete. This pattern is used in more than one driver and may be worth
being moved to the core.

> at minimum it might be tricky and required very careful approach (especially in err path).
> For example, even in this patch you do not check return value of pm_runtime_get_sync() and in
> commit bd869245a3dc ("net: core: try to runtime-resume detached device in __dev_open") also actualy.

The pm_runtime_get_sync() calls are attempts here. We don't want to bail out if a device
doesn't support RPM. I agree that checking the return code could make sense, but then we would
have to be careful which error codes we consider as failed.

> 
> 
> The TI CPSW driver may also be placed in non reachable state when netdev is closed (and even lose context),
> but we do not use netif_device_detach() (so netdev is accessible through netdev_ops/ethtool_ops),
> but instead wake up device by runtime PM for allowed operations or just save requested configuration which
> is applied at netdev->open() time then.
> I feel that using netif_device_detach() in PM runtime sounds like a too heavy approach ;)
> 
That's not a rare pattern when suspending or runtime-suspending to prevent different types
of access to a not accessible device. But yes, it's relatively big hammer ..

> huh, see it's merged already, so...
> 
>> +
>> +    if (!netif_device_present(dev)) {
>> +        rc = -ENODEV;
>> +        goto out;
>> +    }
>> +
>>       if (dev->ethtool_ops->begin) {
>>           rc = dev->ethtool_ops->begin(dev);
>> -        if (rc  < 0)
>> -            return rc;
>> +        if (rc < 0)
>> +            goto out;
>>       }
>>       old_features = dev->features;
>>   @@ -2867,6 +2876,9 @@ int dev_ethtool(struct net *net, struct ifreq *ifr)
>>         if (old_features != dev->features)
>>           netdev_features_change(dev);
>> +out:
>> +    if (dev->dev.parent)
>> +        pm_runtime_put(dev->dev.parent);
>>         return rc;
>>   }
>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-03 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-01 10:35 [PATCH net-next 0/4] ethtool: runtime-resume netdev parent before ethtool ops Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-01 10:36 ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] ethtool: runtime-resume netdev parent before ethtool ioctl ops Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-03 20:41   ` Grygorii Strashko
2021-08-03 21:32     ` Heiner Kallweit [this message]
2021-08-04  8:43       ` Grygorii Strashko
2021-08-04 19:33         ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-05  8:20           ` Grygorii Strashko
2021-08-05 11:11             ` Joakim Zhang
2021-08-05 11:58               ` Grygorii Strashko
2021-08-05 19:24             ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-05 20:00               ` Grygorii Strashko
2021-08-01 10:37 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] ethtool: move implementation of ethnl_ops_begin/complete to netlink.c Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-01 10:40 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] ethtool: move netif_device_present check from ethnl_parse_header_dev_get to ethnl_ops_begin Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-01 10:41 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] ethtool: runtime-resume netdev parent in ethnl_ops_begin Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-05 11:51   ` Julian Wiedmann
2021-08-05 18:48     ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-01 16:25 ` [PATCH net-next 0/4] ethtool: runtime-resume netdev parent before ethtool ops Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-02 14:15   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-08-02 16:42     ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-02 16:54       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-08-02 19:00         ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-08-03 12:00 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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