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From: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt (VMware)" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@chromium.org>, Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>,
	Viktor Malik <vmalik@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 18/27] bpf, x64: Store properly return value for trampoline with multi func programs
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 16:51:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEf4BzbFxSVzu1xrUyzrgn1jKyR40RJ3UEEsUCkii3u5nN_8wg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210826193922.66204-19-jolsa@kernel.org>

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:41 PM Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> When we have multi func program attached, the trampoline
> switched to the function model of the multi func program.
>
> This breaks already attached standard programs, for example
> when we attach following program:
>
>   SEC("fexit/bpf_fentry_test2")
>   int BPF_PROG(test1, int a, __u64 b, int ret)
>
> the trampoline pushes on stack args 'a' and 'b' and return
> value 'ret'.
>
> When following multi func program is attached to bpf_fentry_test2:
>
>   SEC("fexit.multi/bpf_fentry_test*")
>   int BPF_PROG(test2, __u64 a, __u64 b, __u64 c, __u64 d,
>                        __u64 e, __u64 f, int ret)
>
> the trampoline takes this program model and pushes all 6 args
> and return value on stack.
>
> But we still have the original 'test1' program attached, that
> expects 'ret' value where there's 'c' argument now:
>
>   test1(a, b, c)
>
> To fix that we simply overwrite 'c' argument with 'ret' value,
> so test1 is called as expected and test2 gets called as:
>
>   test2(a, b, ret, d, e, f, ret)
>
> which is ok, because 'c' is not defined for bpf_fentry_test2
> anyway.
>

What if we change the order on the stack to be the return value first,
followed by input arguments. That would get us a bit closer to
unifying multi-trampoline and the normal one, right? BPF verifier
should be able to rewrite access to the last argument (i.e., return
value) for fexit programs to actually be at offset 0, and shift all
other arguments by 8 bytes. For fentry, if that helps to keep things
more aligned, we'd just skip the first 8 bytes on the stack and store
all the input arguments in the same offsets. So BPF verifier rewriting
logic stays consistent (except offset 0 will be disallowed).

Basically, I'm thinking how we can make normal and multi trampolines
more interoperable to remove those limitations that two
multi-trampolines can't be attached to the same function, which seems
like a pretty annoying limitation which will be easy to hit in
practice. Alexei previously proposed (as an optimization) to group all
to-be-attached functions into groups by number of arguments, so that
we can have up to 6 different trampolines tailored to actual functions
being attached. So that we don't save unnecessary extra input
arguments saving, which will be even more important once we allow more
than 6 arguments in the future.

With such logic, we should be able to split all the functions into
multiple underlying trampolines, so it seems like it should be
possible to also allow multiple multi-fentry programs to be attached
to the same function by having a separate bpf_trampoline just for
those functions. It will be just an extension of the above "just 6
trampolines" strategy to "as much as we need trampolines".

It's just a vague idea, sorry, I don't understand all the code yet.
But the limitation outlined in one of the previous patches seems very
limiting and unpleasant. I can totally see that some 24/7 running BPF
tracing app uses multi-fentry for tracing a small subset of kernel
functions non-stop, and then someone is trying to use bpftrace or
retsnoop to trace overlapping set of functions. And it immediately
fails. Very frustrating.

> Signed-off-by: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
> ---
>  arch/x86/net/bpf_jit_comp.c | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
>  include/linux/bpf.h         |  1 +
>  kernel/bpf/trampoline.c     |  1 +
>  3 files changed, 35 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-31 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-26 19:38 [PATCH bpf-next v4 00/27] x86/ftrace/bpf: Add batch support for direct/tracing attach Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:38 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 01/27] x86/ftrace: Remove extra orig rax move Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:38 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 02/27] x86/ftrace: Remove fault protection code in prepare_ftrace_return Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:38 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 03/27] x86/ftrace: Make function graph use ftrace directly Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:38 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 04/27] tracing: Add trampoline/graph selftest Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 05/27] ftrace: Add ftrace_add_rec_direct function Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 06/27] ftrace: Add multi direct register/unregister interface Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 07/27] ftrace: Add multi direct modify interface Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 08/27] ftrace/samples: Add multi direct interface test module Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 09/27] bpf: Add support to load multi func tracing program Jiri Olsa
2021-08-31 23:17   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-09-01 11:32     ` Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 10/27] bpf: Add struct bpf_tramp_node layer Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 11/27] bpf: Factor out bpf_trampoline_init function Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 12/27] bpf: Factor out __bpf_trampoline_lookup function Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 13/27] bpf: Factor out __bpf_trampoline_put function Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 14/27] bpf: Change bpf_trampoline_get to return error pointer Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 15/27] bpf, x64: Allow to use caller address from stack Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 16/27] bpf: Add bpf_trampoline_multi_get/put functions Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 17/27] bpf: Add multi trampoline attach support Jiri Olsa
2021-08-31 23:36   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-09-01  0:02     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-09-01 11:39     ` Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 18/27] bpf, x64: Store properly return value for trampoline with multi func programs Jiri Olsa
2021-08-31 23:51   ` Andrii Nakryiko [this message]
2021-09-01 15:15     ` Jiri Olsa
2021-09-02  3:56       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-09-02 12:57         ` Jiri Olsa
2021-09-02 16:54           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-09-02 21:55           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-09-03  9:50             ` Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 19/27] bpf: Attach multi trampoline with ftrace_ops Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 20/27] libbpf: Add btf__find_by_glob_kind function Jiri Olsa
2021-09-01  0:10   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-09-01 11:33     ` Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 21/27] libbpf: Add support to link multi func tracing program Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 22/27] selftests/bpf: Add fentry multi func test Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 23/27] selftests/bpf: Add fexit " Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 24/27] selftests/bpf: Add fentry/fexit " Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 25/27] selftests/bpf: Add mixed " Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 26/27] selftests/bpf: Add attach " Jiri Olsa
2021-08-26 19:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 27/27] selftests/bpf: Add ret_mod " Jiri Olsa
2021-08-29 17:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 00/27] x86/ftrace/bpf: Add batch support for direct/tracing attach Alexei Starovoitov
2021-08-30  8:02   ` Jiri Olsa

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