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From: Dexuan Cui <>
To: Michael Kelley <>,
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	KY Srinivasan <>,
	Haiyang Zhang <>,
	Stephen Hemminger <>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH net v2] hv_netvsc: Fix hibernation for mlx5 VF driver
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 23:00:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <KU1P153MB0120DC1BBBA1F274E47B7D8FBF290@KU1P153MB0120.APCP153.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (raw)
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> From: Michael Kelley <>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:49 PM
> > @@ -2635,6 +2632,15 @@ static int netvsc_resume(struct hv_device *dev)
> >  	netvsc_devinfo_put(device_info);
> >  	net_device_ctx->saved_netvsc_dev_info = NULL;
> >
> > +	/* A NIC driver (e.g. mlx5) may keep the VF network interface across
> > +	 * hibernation, but here the data path is implicitly switched to the
> > +	 * netvsc NIC since the vmbus channel is closed and re-opened, so
> > +	 * netvsc_vf_changed() must be used to switch the data path to the VF.
> > +	 */
> > +	vf_netdev = rtnl_dereference(net_device_ctx->vf_netdev);
> > +	if (vf_netdev && netvsc_vf_changed(vf_netdev) != NOTIFY_OK)
> > +		ret = -EINVAL;
> > +
> I'm a little late looking at this code.  But a question:  Is it possible for
> netvsc_resume() to be called before the VF driver's resume function
> is called?  
Yes, actually this is what happens 100% of the time. :-)

Upon suspend:
1. the mlx5 driver suspends the VF NIC.
2. the pci-hyperv suspends the VF vmbus device, including closing the channel.
3. hv_netvsc suspends the netvsc vmbus device, including closing the channel.

Note: between 1) and 3), the data path is still the mlx5 VF, but obviously the VF
NIC is not working. IMO this is not an issue in practice, since typically we don't
really expect this to work once the suspending starts.

Upon resume:
1. hv_netvsc resumes the netvsc vmbus device, including opening the channel.

At this time, the data path should be the netvsc NIC since we close and re-open 
the netvsc vmbus channel, and I believe the default data path is netvsc.

With this patch, the data path is switched to the VF NIC in netvsc_resume() 
because "netif_running(vf_netdev)" is true for the mlx5 VF NIC (CX-4), though 
the VF NIC device is not resumed back yet. According to my test, I believe this
switching succeeds. Note: when the host receives the VM's 
NVSP_MSG4_TYPE_SWITCH_DATA_PATH request, it looks the host doesn't check
if the VF vmbus device and the VF PCI device are really "activated"[1], and it
looks the host simply programs the FPGA GFT for the newly-requested data path,
and the host doesn't send a response message to the VM, indicating if the
switching is a success or a failure.

So, at this time, any incoming Ethernet packets (except the broadcast/multicast
and TCP SYN packets, which always go through the netvsc NIC on Azure) can not
be received by the VF NIC, which has not been resumed yet. IMO this is not an
issue in practice, since typically we don't really expect this to work before the
resuming is fully finished. BTW, at this time the userspace is not thawed yet, so
no application can transmit packets.

2. pci-hyperv resumes the VF vmbus device, including opening the channel.

3. the mlx5 driver resumes the VF NIC, and now everything is backed to normal.

[1] In the future, if the host starts to check if the VF vmbus/PCI devices are 
activated upon the receipt of the VM's NVSP_MSG4_TYPE_SWITCH_DATA_PATH
request, and refuses to switch the data path if they're not activated, then
we'll be in trouble, but even if that happens, this patch itself doesn't make
the situation worse.

So ideally we need a mechanism to switch the data path to the mlx5 VF NIC
*after* the mlx5 NIC is resumed. Unluckily it looks there is not a standard
notification mechanism for this since the mlx5 driver preserves the VF network
interface. I'll discuss with the Mellanox developer who implemented mlx5
hibernation support, and probably mlx5 should also destroy/re-create the
VF network interface across hibernation, just as the mlx4 driver does.

> If so, is it possible for netvsc_vf_changed() to find that the VF
> is not up, and hence to switch the data path away from the VF instead of
> to the VF?
> Michael

When we are in netvsc_resume(), in my test "netif_running(vf_netdev)" is 
always true for the mlx5 VF NIC (CX-4), so netvsc_vf_changed() should switch
the data path to the VF.

static inline bool netif_running(const struct net_device *dev)
        return test_bit(__LINK_STATE_START, &dev->state);

The flag __LINK_STATE_START is only cleared when the NIC is brought "DOWN",
and that case is already automatically handled by netvsc_netdev_event().

For mlx4 (CX-3), net_device_ctx->vf_netdev is NULL in netvsc_resume(), so the
CX-3 VF NIC is not affected by this patch.

-- Dexuan

      reply	other threads:[~2020-09-08 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-07  7:13 Dexuan Cui
2020-09-08  4:10 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-08 20:49 ` Michael Kelley
2020-09-08 23:00   ` Dexuan Cui [this message]

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