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From: Stephan Gerhold <stephan@gerhold.net>
To: Mark Greer <mgreer@animalcreek.com>
Cc: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@canonical.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfc@lists.01.org, Alex Blasche <alexander.blasche@qt.io>,
	phone-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Testing wanted for Linux NFC subsystem
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 17:37:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YJ1Hr/hov9I42GK1@gerhold.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210513144855.GA266838@animalcreek.com>

On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 07:48:55AM -0700, Mark Greer wrote:
> On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 01:49:53PM +0200, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
> > I have a couple of "recycled" smartphones running mainline Linux
> > and some of them do have NFC chips. I have two with NXP PN547
> > (supported by nxp,nxp-nci-i2c), one with Samsung S3FWRN5
> > (samsung,s3fwrn5-i2c) and even one with Broadcom BCM2079x I think
> > (this one does not have a driver for the Linux NFC subsystem sadly).
> > 
> > +Cc phone-devel@vger.kernel.org, in case other people there are
> > interested in NFC :)
> > 
> > The NXP/Samsung ones seems to work just fine. However, since there are
> > barely any userspace tools making use of Linux NFC all my testing so far
> > was limited to polling for devices with "nfctool" and being happy enough
> > when it realizes that I hold some NFC tag close to the device. :S
> 
> There is a user-level daemon that is the counterpart for the in-kernel
> NFC subsystem.  It is called neard and is available here:
> 
> 	git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/network/nfc/neard.git
> 
> There are a few test script in it that will let you read and write NFC
> tags, and do some other things.  We can add some more tests to that set
> as we go.
> 

Yeah, I packaged that for Alpine Linux / postmarketOS.
"nfctool" also comes from "neard" as far as I can tell :)

I think I also played with the Neard test scripts a bit at some point,
and managed to read some NFC tag thing inside an old Yubikey NEO
that I found, but didn't really know what else to do.

> > I would be happy to do some more testing if someone has something useful
> > that can be tested. However, I guess ideally we would have someone who
> > actually uses Linux NFC actively for some real application. :)
> 
> Ideally, you should have some NFC tags of various types.  Types 2, 3,
> 4A, 4B, and 5 tags are supported.  Peer-to-peer mode is supported too
> so you should be able to transfer data from one of your phones to the
> other over NFC (and do a BT hand-over, if you're interested).
> 

I guess this is where I kind of lack hardware as well at the moment,
I don't have any programmable NFC tags at the moment (although I guess
those should be quite cheap). I might play with the peer-to-peer mode
a bit when I find time.

> Note that the specified range for NFC is only 4 cm and poor antenna
> design, etc. means that the actual range is usually much less (e.g.,
> they amost have to touch).  Also note that there are timing constraints
> so you may need to make the scheduling priority of the interrupt thread
> of your NFC driver real-time.
> 

Yeah I noticed, always need to search for a while to find the right spot
on the phone. :)

Stephan

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-13 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-12 14:43 [PATCH 1/2] MAINTAINERS: nfc: add Krzysztof Kozlowski as maintainer Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-05-12 14:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] MAINTAINERS: nfc: include linux-nfc mailing list Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-05-12 15:15   ` [linux-nfc] " Mark Greer
2021-05-12 15:11 ` [linux-nfc] [PATCH 1/2] MAINTAINERS: nfc: add Krzysztof Kozlowski as maintainer Daniel Lezcano
2021-05-12 15:43   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-05-12 16:49     ` [linux-nfc] " Mark Greer
2021-05-12 20:22       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-07-09  9:24       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-07-15 18:34         ` Mark Greer
2021-07-16 10:17           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-07-16 17:15             ` Mark Greer
2021-07-16 18:17               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-07-16 19:32                 ` Mark Greer
2021-05-12 15:15 ` [linux-nfc] " Mark Greer
2021-05-12 15:32 ` Frieder Schrempf
2021-05-12 17:01   ` Mark Greer
2021-05-12 20:21     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-05-13  1:35       ` Mark Greer
2021-05-13 11:49     ` Testing wanted for Linux NFC subsystem Stephan Gerhold
2021-05-13 14:48       ` Mark Greer
2021-05-13 15:37         ` Stephan Gerhold [this message]
2021-05-14 15:23           ` Mark Greer
2021-05-18 19:18             ` Vincent Knecht
2021-05-12 21:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] MAINTAINERS: nfc: add Krzysztof Kozlowski as maintainer patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2021-05-12 21:31   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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