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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
	Srinivasan Raju <srini.raju@purelifi.com>
Cc: Mostafa Afgani <mostafa.afgani@purelifi.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:NETWORKING DRIVERS (WIRELESS)" 
	<linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:NETWORKING DRIVERS" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] [v15] wireless: Initial driver submission for pureLiFi STA devices
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 09:33:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0522c7845390a71203744d209a9516cb8a562e6.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ee9iun4o.fsf@codeaurora.org>

On Tue, 2021-09-21 at 15:30 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, I agree, As LiFi is not standardized yet we are using the
> > existing wireless frameworks. For now, piggy backing with 2.4GHz is
> > seamless for users. We will undertake band and other wider change once
> > IEEE 802.11bb is standardized.
> 
> I don't see why the IEEE standard needs to be final before adding the
> band. Much better to add a band which is in draft stage compared to
> giving false information to the user space.

I tend to agree, but looking at the current draft (D0.6), that's ...
vague? Maybe it's obvious to somebody familiar with the technology, but
I really don't understand how 800-1000nm infrared band maps to 21 MHz +
channel offset? Isn't the frequency there a couple hundred THz?

Regardless, if the channelisation plan says 21 MHz + n_ch * 5 MHz, then
I think we can just define NL80211_BAND_LC and the driver advertises
those channels - that even gets you easy access to all the defined
channels (apparently today all the odd channels from 1-61, split into
20/40/80/160 MHz bandwidth).

I guess I'm really not sure how that maps to the actual infrared, but
reusing all the 20/40/80/160 machinery from VHT means we can actually do
a lot of things in mac80211/etc. without much changes, which isn't bad.

Anyway, I'd feel more comfortable defining an LC band here, even if it
potentially changes later. Or maybe especially if the actual channels
there change later.

johannes


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-22  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200924151910.21693-1-srini.raju@purelifi.com>
2020-09-28 10:19 ` [PATCH] [v2] wireless: Initial driver submission for pureLiFi devices Srinivasan Raju
2020-09-28 12:07   ` Joe Perches
2020-09-28 12:53     ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-09-30  5:16   ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-30  5:29     ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-09-30  8:01     ` Kalle Valo
2020-09-30  9:55       ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-30 10:11         ` Johannes Berg
2020-09-30 10:44           ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-10-16  8:23             ` Kalle Valo
2020-09-30  8:05     ` Kalle Valo
2020-09-30 10:04       ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-10-14  6:19   ` [PATCH] [PATCH] [v3] wireless: Initial driver submission for pureLiFi STA devices Srinivasan Raju
2020-10-15 22:35     ` Joe Perches
2020-10-16  6:36       ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-10-16  6:34   ` [PATCH] [v4] " Srinivasan Raju
2020-10-16  8:58     ` Joe Perches
2020-10-16 10:13       ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-10-19  3:17     ` [PATCH] [v5] " Srinivasan Raju
2020-10-19  4:55       ` Joe Perches
2020-10-19  6:05         ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-10-19  8:38       ` [PATCH] [v6] " Srinivasan Raju
2020-10-19 16:07         ` Krishna Chaitanya
2020-10-19 16:40           ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-10-19 16:54             ` Joe Perches
2020-10-19 17:05               ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-11-16  9:22     ` [PATCH] [v7] " Srinivasan Raju
2020-11-16 20:45       ` Joe Perches
2020-11-18  3:24         ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-11-24 14:44       ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]       ` <20201124144448.4E95EC43460@smtp.codeaurora.org>
2020-11-26  5:01         ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-12-03  4:43           ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-12-03 15:58             ` Kalle Valo
2020-12-03 16:50               ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-12-19 13:15                 ` Kalle Valo
2020-12-03  4:38   ` [PATCH] [v8] " Srinivasan Raju
2020-12-03  5:09   ` [PATCH] [v9] " Srinivasan Raju
2020-12-03  7:53     ` Joe Perches
2020-12-08  5:53   ` [PATCH] [v10] " Srinivasan Raju
2020-12-08 11:57   ` [PATCH] [v11] " Srinivasan Raju
2020-12-08 14:37     ` Kalle Valo
2020-12-19 12:51     ` Kalle Valo
2020-12-19 13:06     ` Kalle Valo
2020-12-19 13:14     ` Kalle Valo
2020-12-21  5:52       ` Srinivasan Raju
2020-12-21  5:57         ` Kalle Valo
2021-01-15 12:13           ` Srinivasan Raju
2021-01-05 13:19   ` [PATCH] [PATCH] [v12] " Srinivasan Raju
2021-02-12 11:49   ` [PATCH] [v13] " Srinivasan Raju
2021-02-12 13:44     ` Johannes Berg
2021-02-17 10:05       ` Kalle Valo
2021-02-19  5:15       ` Srinivasan Raju
2021-02-19  8:25         ` Johannes Berg
2021-02-24 10:41           ` Srinivasan Raju
2021-02-17 10:02     ` Kalle Valo
2021-02-17 10:13       ` Kalle Valo
2021-02-17 10:16         ` Srinivasan Raju
2021-02-17 10:09     ` Kalle Valo
2021-02-17 10:19     ` Kalle Valo
2021-02-24 10:44       ` Srinivasan Raju
2021-02-26 13:07   ` [PATCH] [v14] " Srinivasan Raju
2021-04-19 11:52     ` Srinivasan Raju
2021-08-10 13:02       ` Srinivasan Raju
2021-08-21 13:42         ` Kalle Valo
2021-08-18 14:13     ` [PATCH] [v15] " Srinivasan Raju
2021-09-20 13:05       ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]         ` <CWLP265MB3217BB5AA5F102629A3AD204E0A19@CWLP265MB3217.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2021-09-21 12:30           ` [EXTERNAL] " Kalle Valo
2021-09-22  7:33             ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2021-09-24 13:27               ` [EXTERNAL] " Srinivasan Raju
2021-09-20 14:11       ` Kalle Valo
2021-09-24 11:11       ` Kalle Valo
2021-09-24 13:26   ` [PATCH] [v16] wireless: Initial driver submission for pureLiFi LiFi Station Srinivasan Raju
2021-09-24 13:40     ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-05 11:22   ` [PATCH] [v17] wireless: Initial driver submission for pureLiFi STA devices Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-05 11:26     ` Johannes Berg
2021-10-05 12:30   ` [PATCH] [v18 1/2] nl80211: Add LC placeholder band definition to enum nl80211_band Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-05 12:31   ` [PATCH] [v18 2/2] wireless: Initial driver submission for pureLiFi STA devices Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-05 22:09     ` Jeff Johnson
2021-10-06 10:04   ` [PATCH] [v19 " Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-11  6:16     ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-12 12:50   ` [PATCH 0/2] wireless: New Driver " Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-12 12:50     ` [PATCH 1/2] [v19 1/2] nl80211: Add LC placeholder band definition to enum nl80211_band Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-12 12:50     ` [PATCH 2/2] [v19 2/2] wireless: Initial driver submission for pureLiFi STA devices Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-18 10:00   ` [PATCH v20 0/2] wireless: New Driver " Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-18 10:00     ` [PATCH v20 1/2] nl80211: Add LC placeholder band definition to nl80211_band Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-18 10:00     ` [PATCH v20 2/2] wireless: Initial driver submission for pureLiFi STA devices Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-25  9:59       ` Kari Argillander
     [not found]         ` <CWLP265MB321780AB502EF147F6AAF197E0839@CWLP265MB3217.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2021-10-25 12:17           ` [EXTERNAL] " Kalle Valo
2021-10-27 12:38       ` Kari Argillander
2021-10-28  7:24         ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-31 13:10   ` [PATCH v21 0/2] wireless: New Driver " Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-31 13:10     ` [PATCH 1/2] nl80211: Add LC placeholder band definition to nl80211_band Srinivasan Raju
2021-10-31 13:10     ` [PATCH 2/2] wireless: Initial driver submission for pureLiFi STA devices Srinivasan Raju
2021-12-20 19:13       ` Kalle Valo
2022-02-24 15:35       ` Kalle Valo
2022-02-24 18:20   ` [PATCH v22 0/2] wireless: New Driver " Srinivasan Raju
2022-02-24 18:20     ` [PATCH v22 1/2] nl80211: Add LC placeholder band definition to nl80211_band Srinivasan Raju
2022-02-25  9:52       ` Kalle Valo
2022-02-24 18:20     ` [PATCH v22 1/2] wireless: Initial driver submission for pureLiFi STA devices Srinivasan Raju
2022-04-25 13:06       ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]         ` <CWLP265MB32173F6188304F6B2CB90C79E0F89@CWLP265MB3217.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2022-04-26  4:17           ` [EXTERNAL] " Kalle Valo
2022-04-27  4:55       ` Kalle Valo

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